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<description><![CDATA[TSI Martin posted : Any updates?<br><br>If not, please post in the &raquo;<IMG  align=absmiddle style="vertical-align:middle;" TITLE="" SRC="http://i.dslr.net/silk/lock.png" border=0 width=16 height=16><A HREF="https://secure.dslreports.com/forum/teksavdirect">TekSavvy Direct</A> forum so we can look into it.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Martin]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[xdragus posted : the second technician never showed up but I was able to find a word doc posted by TSI Martin on the support forums of how to setup a sagemcom modem, so i'm at least on the basic 3mb/1mb profile.<br><br>After that I called customer support and was told to wait til at least midnight to see if the profile gets updated to 25/10 since my account shows the work as completed. <br><br>So i'll check by tomorrow to see if the profile has been updated since i'm still at living at my old place.<br><br>Thanks for the follow up :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSIElizabeth posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1850612" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1850612');">xdragus</a>:</said><p>Bell tech showed up quite early today but still waiting on that 2nd technician with 2 hrs to go before 9pm.<br><br>hrmm i'm kind of worried i'm going to have to take another day off work after reading this post and similar others of no show :(<br> </p></div>Was the installation successful?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[xdragus posted : Bell tech showed up quite early today but still waiting on that 2nd technician with 2 hrs to go before 9pm.<br><br>hrmm i'm kind of worried i'm going to have to take another day off work after reading this post and similar others of no show :(]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[HeadSpinning posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>So it's obviously a poor communication practice... there should be a more direct line approach.<br> </p></div>We used to have the ability to call and e-mail reps directly, but that has been taken away within the past year - we have to use the queue.<br><small>--<br>MNSi Internet - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mnsi.net" >www.mnsi.net</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1210963" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1210963');">HeadSpinning</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>Yeah, that be great for Bell tech to wait 50min for indie to answer the line...<br> </p></div>Bell does that to us all the time.  I've sat 45 minutes regularly on the wholesale queues.   One time, I called in at 4pm, sat until 5pm when I was unceremoniously dumped because it was the end of the day.  <br> </p></div>So it's obviously a poor communication practice... there should be a more direct line approach.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Bhruic posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>I think this is an area where we need to look into more closely to understand what happens in those cases. Bell clearly missed the appointment. Should we be allowed to cancel it with no costs to us in those instances? what exactly happens? I need to dig into this further. </p></div>You absolutely should be allowed to.  It's a situation with dual agreements - one between you and the customer, and one between you and Bell.  Your ability to deliever on your agreement with the customer is predicated on Bell's ability to deliver on theirs.  If they don't do what they've agreed to do, why should you be required to pay them anything?<br><br>As long as they can continue to act in this way and still get paid despite not doing their jobs, there's no incentive for them to improve.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[HeadSpinning posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>Yeah, that be great for Bell tech to wait 50min for indie to answer the line...<br> </p></div>Bell does that to us all the time.  I've sat 45 minutes regularly on the wholesale queues.   One time, I called in at 4pm, sat until 5pm when I was unceremoniously dumped because it was the end of the day.  <br><small>--<br>MNSi Internet - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mnsi.net" >www.mnsi.net</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : So, I looked into it all. I listened to 3 or 4 calls.<br><br>I listened to the one where the call dropped. It dropped mid sentence.. it doesn't seem intentional but we'll follow up to see exactly how that happened. Our agent was not impolite or rude in any way on the call (or any of the calls).<br><br>Overall I think this is a simple case that the tech didn't show (we'll follow up to try to see why that is). And rescheduling wasn't an option because the OP had to leave town.<br><br>We cancelled it at his request..<br><br>We may well be on the hook for costs as a result. I'm trying <br>to figure that out still.<br><br>We did give the OP a full refund but the info provided on the phone at the time was that he would only get a partial refund.<br><br>I think this is an area where we need to look into more closely to understand what happens in those cases. Bell clearly missed the appointment. Should we be allowed to cancel it with no costs to us in those instances? what exactly happens? I need to dig into this further.<br><br>It does seem to me that anytime everybody commits to an appointment, everybody needs to show up.. if they dont it really buggers things up on every front.<br><br>There are other instances where the techs dont need access to the site and can still get it running. What are those instances? Why couldn't we just tell bell to hook the service and if there was inside wiring issues that the OP would take care of it some other way?<br><br>In the end, when listening to the calls, our staff did what they could.. there's not much in the way of troubleshooting that can be done. So this is really a case of bad timing. The OP needed to book it back out of town and the tech didn't show.<br><br>Wait times for tech support may also have contributed to frustration, not sure but that one we know about and we're in the process of hiring/training. Twenty staff start their month long training tomorrow and we're interviewing in Gatineau for another twenty bodies.<br><br>For our relationship with Bell. I would say its improving. We do have their ear and they are committing to work with us. We have already seen results and Pierre and I have been meeting regularly with them. We have direct people we can contact to look into situations if we need. This may not mean that we have the ability to have somebody go back out the same day if something is messed up but it does mean that the root causes of why things are going on are being looked into when we raise the issues up to them.<br><br>For the OP, I'm sorry it wasn't setup on time. I know how frustrating that can be especially when you're on a tight schedule. I PM'd you a suggestion about setting up a temp TekTalk service that you could essentially take with you wherever you go as a possible compromise until you're there full time. Either way, we're prepared to work with you to help however we can.<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1652067" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1652067');">MaynardKrebs</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/785245" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=785245');">graniterock</a>:</said><p>In a good faith situation some practical solutions would include shorter install windows, courtesy calls from either TSI or the tech when an install is cancelled / missed, phone calls post install to see if the install completed, proactive call to reschedule an appointment when it's clear an appointment won't be kept.  <br><br> </p></div>Big mistake in allowing Bell to contact indie customers directly.<br><br>Bell techs should be calling the indie to confirm appointments, misses, and problems. Indies should be the ones communicating with the customer at all times. Yes, that may mean some telephone tag, but at least that way the indie can faithfully record all calls from Bell techs (ie. dedicated number for Bell techs to call) and to be able to document all interaction with Bell for chargebacks to Bell.<br> </p></div>Yeah, that be great for Bell tech to wait 50min for indie to answer the line...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MaynardKrebs posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/785245" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=785245');">graniterock</a>:</said><p>In a good faith situation some practical solutions would include shorter install windows, courtesy calls from either TSI or the tech when an install is cancelled / missed, phone calls post install to see if the install completed, proactive call to reschedule an appointment when it's clear an appointment won't be kept.  <br><br> </p></div>Big mistake in allowing Bell to contact indie customers directly.<br><br>Bell techs should be calling the indie to confirm appointments, misses, and problems. Indies should be the ones communicating with the customer at all times. Yes, that may mean some telephone tag, but at least that way the indie can faithfully record all calls from Bell techs (ie. dedicated number for Bell techs to call) and to be able to document all interaction with Bell for chargebacks to Bell.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[graniterock posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>LondonOntGuy,<br><br>I have my team doing a full investigation into what happened. I want to know exactly what happened; you mentioned we hung up on you, I want to know if that happened or not and why if it did. And if we can take something to Bell to look into.. we will. Why it got caught in the "system"..<br><br>My understanding is that you had to travel back and that the service is now cancelled but either way, if there is something to learn from this, we'll find it.<br> </p></div>I am glad you are looking into it.  This seems to be TSI's biggest Achilles heal right now.<br><br>It can't be underestimated how a sour install experience can set the tone for customer experience down the line even if the issue is resolved.  Certainly my 5 year journey to switch to TSI and then ditch both expressvu and eventually my landline started with a multi week delay in my Bell DSL install.  While my experience soured me on Bell.  The dynamic for TSI is likely the same.  Install nightmares weaken customer loyalty (possibly forever) and scare away new customers.  Threads like this certainly give people pause to jump TSI because "if it ain't broke, why fix it" even if it costs more.  <br><br>The fundamental problem is that beyond information giving, TSI doesn't have control of the installation process but is responsible to the customer for the install experience.  As far as I can tell if an install is botched by an incumbent the only consequence is that it gets rescheduled.<br><br>Philosophically the solution lies in greater consequences to the incumbents when things go wrong.  Even if the the incumbent is working in good faith, stronger consequences will motivate faster reform.<br><br>I'm not really in a position to know how this could best be done in the real world.  Can TSI take this to the CRTC?  Ask for penalties when the same problems reoccur?  Be able to pass along charges to the incumbents for lost customers due to bad installs?  Civil court?  I imagine the difficulty with these options is that any good faith between companies would be lost and could backfire in the end.<br><br>In a good faith situation some practical solutions would include shorter install windows, courtesy calls from either TSI or the tech when an install is cancelled / missed, phone calls post install to see if the install completed, proactive call to reschedule an appointment when it's clear an appointment won't be kept.  When scheduling appointments TSI should clearly encourage customers to book install days on a day when they would ordinarily be home rather than take time off work.  As well, installs should be offered 7 days a week to accomdiate those who only work week days.  I realize much of this is not solely at TSI's discretion but it could be an end goal.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1599325" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1599325');">zacron</a>:</said><p> Yep, thats bell. </p></div>Correction. That's Bell Technical Solutions for you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[zacron posted : That was not amusing to read that people are upset and or urked to the point they need to make fb posts about NOR is is professional of that manager to be such an inappropriate idiot.<br><br>Yep, thats bell.<br> <br><small>--<br>"Recognize, Realize, and Repent"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>Wow, just skimmed that link. Unreal.<br> </p></div>It's quite amusing to read....that is unless you rely on them to provision your customers circuits. Remember these guys are the face of your company to some extent.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : Wow, just skimmed that link. Unreal.<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : Tx for that link. Didn't know if it was mass hires or what.. but you're highlighting my point though that competency is an issue which is what I was referring to...<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p> Even Bell Technical solutions.. They've hired thousands of new staff.. Those are the ones doing installs and repairs now.. </p></div>Someone at BCE is feeding you a line of BS. Bell Technical Solutions (BTS) has not hired thousands of new techs. Maybe a few hundred net if that over the last 5 years. They do have such a high turnover that they can spin the statistics that way. The real reason for the no-shows is the competency of their techs and the managerial structure of BTS.<br><br>Read this screwed up labour law case on how things are run over there. &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlight.do?text=bell+technical+solutions&language=en&searchTitle=Ontario&path=/en/on/onla/doc/2012/2012canlii51468/2012canlii51468.html" >www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlight.&middot;&middot;&middot;468.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSIElizabeth posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1006231" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1006231');">LondonOntGuy</a>:</said><p>Why wasn't even Saturday an option for me? I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday when I 'moved' and got my services moved from one apt to the other. (i moved down the hall into a larger unit)<br> </p></div>We can ask for Saturday installs but they are hard to come by and usually have to be booked at least 1 week in advance. In your specific case, we couldn't reschedule for the next day as you were traveling back to London. So a reschedule seems out if question based on what you said on your calls to us. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : TSI-Liz,<br><br>I'm curious.<br><br>Does Teksavvy have stats they can share with us to break down service failures?<br><br>For example:<br>The percentage of no-show techs<br>The percentage of wrong info give<br>etc<br><br>In other words, does TSI have any quality metrics or stats that they can share with us.<br><br>ty.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LondonOntGuy posted : Why wasn't even Saturday an option for me? I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday when I 'moved' and got my services moved from one apt to the other. (i moved down the hall into a larger unit)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSIElizabeth posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1795083" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1795083');">harmar</a>:</said><p>so then how come whenever there is a problem it is "oh rogers/bell is evil they the problem, lets grab our pitchforks and laterns and storm the building"<br><br>but when  thousands of installs go fine we never see "Hey guys, want to let you know that rogers and bell is doing an AMAZING  job supporting us by setting up all these accounts. Let's congratulate rogers and take out their CEO for beers!"<br> </p></div>A study proves that on average, twice as many people are told about a bad experience vs. a good one. A lot of times when someone will complain about a bad experience with us, we try and provide an explanation, which in turn can be read as blame. I can only speak for myself here, but my intent is never to point the finger but to provide the customer with a <b> completely transparent </b> reason as to what happened. We rely on Rogers and Bell, and when they drop on an install, we drop the ball on the install. It is not about taking away the heat off of us, because either way it's there. <br><br>When everything goes as planned in general with companies, they are meeting expectation, not exceeding it. Teksavvy pays Rogers and Bell for the installs, and we hope and expect them to deliver it on the date they confirm it for. If they do not, it clearly affects and reflects on our customer service and then threads like this begin. Personally, If I <i>didn't</i> appreciate a business, I wouldn't be giving them money every month. I think that's how most customers show their appreciation, even if it isn't vocally written. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Tx posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1795083" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1795083');">harmar</a>:</said><p>so then how come whenever there is a problem it is "oh rogers/bell is evil they the problem, lets grab our pitchforks and laterns and storm the building"<br>but when  thousands of installs go fine we never see "Hey guys, want to let you know that rogers and bell is doing an AMAZING  job supporting us by setting up all these accounts. Let's congratulate rogers and take out their CEO for beers!"<br> </p></div>because well it is rogers/bell... it's simple as that... it sadly cannot get any clearer.  Only part that Teksavvy has control over from them  to the POI.  Last mile is by regulation Bell/Rogers.  Teksavvy even if they won the lotto and could invest $25,000,000 in to their own trucks and techs couldn't touch homes]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Perma posted : I give a lot of credit to TSI,  where else do you see the CEO of a company giving personal support?<br><br>My only problem with Teksavvy, which still pisses me off beyond belief to this day is that I ordered a docsis2 modem last year from you because it was all that was listed at the time.  The day I get the modem(hadn't even opened it yet),  you up the speeds and say I need a docsis 3 modem to receive the correct speeds on the package I'm paying for.  I emailed, and contacted TSI on facebook and was moreless told to bad.  I didn't want a free modem,  all I wanted was to return the unopened docsis2 and pay the difference for a docsis3.  Now I've been experiencing lag for over a week and it may have to do with the docsis2 modem I'm stuck with.<br><br>Again,  I think TSI is a great company with nice people, but your procedures can be horrible and still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  I posted]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[harmar posted : so then how come whenever there is a problem it is "oh rogers/bell is evil they the problem, lets grab our pitchforks and laterns and storm the building"<br>but when  thousands of installs go fine we never see "Hey guys, want to let you know that rogers and bell is doing an AMAZING  job supporting us by setting up all these accounts. Let's congratulate rogers and take out their CEO for beers!"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : LondonOntGuy,<br><br>I have my team doing a full investigation into what happened. I want to know exactly what happened; you mentioned we hung up on you, I want to know if that happened or not and why if it did. And if we can take something to Bell to look into.. we will. Why it got caught in the "system"..<br><br>My understanding is that you had to travel back and that the service is now cancelled but either way, if there is something to learn from this, we'll find it.<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Andre posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1848040" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1848040');">rdoo</a>:</said><p>Although Teksavvy remedied the situation with credits to my account, I still feel that they do not go up to bat for customers who are willing to back them.  I too received the "lost in the system" excuse, in the end that's no concern to the customers; we just want YOU to resolve it or at least put the necessary pressure on the incumbents to resolve.  And to believe and justify that "it really was a system thing" just proves that Teksavvy will just roll over when situations like these occur.  <br><br>With the frequent occurrences of these situations, why is Teksavvy so quick to accept the excuses and expect it to be all ok with the customers?  Complain, push for changes, do everything to make a stink about what the customers are having to put up with.  We just want to know that you're up to bat for us!  You're on our side aren't you?  <br> </p></div>Hi rdoo,<br><br>Could you please PM me your account info... I would like to use your example along side with LondonOntGuy's so I can find out what causes these things to happen in the first place and what we can do to prevent them.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Andre<br><small>--<br>TSI Andre<br>Director of Service Delivery<br>Authorized TekSavvy Employee ( &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/teksavvy">TekSavvy FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/14672#14672">Official support in the forum</A> ) <br><A HREF="https://twitter.com/AndreCleroux">Follow me on Twitter!</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[rdoo posted : Although Teksavvy remedied the situation with credits to my account, I still feel that they do not go up to bat for customers who are willing to back them.  I too received the "lost in the system" excuse, in the end that's no concern to the customers; we just want YOU to resolve it or at least put the necessary pressure on the incumbents to resolve.  And to believe and justify that "it really was a system thing" just proves that Teksavvy will just roll over when situations like these occur.  <br><br>With the frequent occurrences of these situations, why is Teksavvy so quick to accept the excuses and expect it to be all ok with the customers?  Complain, push for changes, do everything to make a stink about what the customers are having to put up with.  We just want to know that you're up to bat for us!  You're on our side aren't you?  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MaynardKrebs posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>.. who had something "lost in the system".. and it really was a system thing that was messed up.. the higher ups at Bell finally chased it down and it appears to be fixed now..<br><br> </p></div>That would be the "Indie Orders Circular File".  :(]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : Yeah, I agree. why another week.. I'll check with Andre to see what the logic was with that...<br><br>for the "lost in the system" part.. I don't know either but I do know that a month or so ago we had another client here on DSLr.. IIgs I think it was.. who had something "lost in the system".. and it really was a system thing that was messed up.. the higher ups at Bell finally chased it down and it appears to be fixed now..<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LondonOntGuy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>Hey LondonOntGuy,<br><br>I'm just reading through this thread. I know you're frustrated with it all.. I'm trying to look at all of this from an objective point of view to see what we could have done differently. I don't know that I've read every post and maybe you already explained it but can you tell me you're thoughts on what we could do differently? What we could have done to avoid this perhaps?<br> </p></div>Not really sure anything could have been done. At the very least, Bell should have told you they just weren't going to bother giving me service. The line they fed you about it "being lost in the system" is hogwash.  Then being told it would be what was essentially another week before another attempt could be made, that's what pushed me over the edge and made me fly into a nerd rage. Another attempt the next day or even Friday would have been more acceptable. <br><br>I could maybe understand if this were the beginning or start of the month, when people generally get this set up, but how many could there be in Sudbury getting a new phone install on November 21?  I doubt very many at all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bt posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1006231" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1006231');">LondonOntGuy</a>:</said><p>I bet if I had ordered this install through Bell, they'd be over right away, with little to no BS involved.<br> </p></div>Plenty of delays, waits and no-shows for Bell customers too.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vag16v posted : 3rd party groups who are exercising their right to sell their own service over the Bell infrastructure are always going to have a tough time dealing with Bell.<br>Bell never wanted it, still doesn't.. but is forced to allow it. <br>They're forever going to make the 3rd parties follow every rule to the "T".<br>So every rule they have in place, is going to have to be adhered to and people at the opposite end won't fully understand or care when it affects them.<br>It must be frustrating for businesses like TS when they hit that point where they are almost powerless to do much but wait. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1597424" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1597424');">Tx</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>While I'm fixated on ratings... you're fixated on complaining post. It's only normal to have more complaining post when your numbers of customer grows. <br> </p></div>I think you just answered your own question as you bring up the rating system on DSLR when you asked everyone to check Bells rating compared to Teksavvy.<br><br>There are far more happy customers with bell vs unhappy unfortunately, that's why they're still successful (i hate it, but what  can i do about it?)  I do not think reimbursing customers is the answer, i think fighting bell through the CRTC for better regulations is the answer.  Getting an SLA would be a great step in the right direction.<br> </p></div>Bell is almost nation wide... also offers all 4 service... People in general don't really trust wholesales, some may have never heard of them because there's no add or are kind of new.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Tx posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>While I'm fixated on ratings... you're fixated on complaining post. It's only normal to have more complaining post when your numbers of customer grows. <br> </p></div>I think you just answered your own question as you bring up the rating system on DSLR when you asked everyone to check Bells rating compared to Teksavvy.<br><br>There are far more happy customers with bell vs unhappy unfortunately, that's why they're still successful (i hate it, but what  can i do about it?)  I do not think reimbursing customers is the answer, i think fighting bell through the CRTC for better regulations is the answer.  Getting an SLA would be a great step in the right direction.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Tx posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1331622" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1331622');">TSI Martin</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1597424" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1597424');">Tx</a>:</said><p>I think you need to understand the meaning of reseller...  TSI isn't a reseller<br> </p></div>Actually..... if we base our self on the reason the OP posted in the first place, it was for phone.  And TSI is a reseller for POTS.  We wholesale DSL/Cable for internet.  So his comment is actually correct in this case.  :D<br> </p></div>I disagree.  Reseller is what you offer to customers to resell your service (Though your POTS is resold yes no equipment required) but your wholesale side changes what Teksavvy is.  You don't invest in the hardware you guys do to be labeled reseller.  <br><br>Sure you utilize the last mile, but at the end of the day, it's your hardware right up to the last mile.  You can't just call a company a reseller that has the setup you do.  If that were the case, and should you argue it, i'd advise you guys to advertise this on your site to better inform customers that you are just a reseller.<br><br>I run a medium sized business of which several customers resell my services, they sure as heck don't invest except their monthly bills]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : yep. Cable had everything to do with everything in the last year and a half. Double edged sword. Read my evolution of access blog pretty much.<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1368600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1368600');">TSI Marc</a>:</said><p>I think our rating went down because for about a year, mid way through last year up to mid way through this year we were just less good. Many reasons for it.. Not trying to rehash that.<br><br>Today though, we are certainly pulling all the stops and pushing all the buttons to own every single experience. We have wait time issues that are still impacting things that we have a plan to solve soon. And there are new realities that just were not there 5 years ago... Just think of all the upgrades the incumbents are doing and how much that has caused all sorts of problems. Even Bell Technical solutions.. They've hired thousands of new staff.. Those are the ones doing installs and repairs now.. All this change impacts us in ways that were not there before.<br><br>I don't see our size as the primary factor in all of this. We did have to deal with a number of issues but as soon as our attention was again turned to the customer experience, you can almost instantly see where the issues are coming from. We're not perfect.. We have to work out some kinks still but none of those kinks will make a field tech show up on time... Or prevent a PIE...<br> </p></div>I agree, it does impact. Adding cable to the mix was also a new thing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Martin posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1597424" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1597424');">Tx</a>:</said><p>I think you need to understand the meaning of reseller...  TSI isn't a reseller<br> </p></div>Actually..... if we base our self on the reason the OP posted in the first place, it was for phone.  And TSI is a reseller for POTS.  We wholesale DSL/Cable for internet.  So his comment is actually correct in this case.  :D<br><small>--<br>TSI Martin (Escalations / Social Media) - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.<br>Authorized TSI employee ( »&raquo;<A HREF="/faq/teksavvy">TekSavvy FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/14672#14672">Official support in the forum</A> )<br>Follow me on Twitter : @TSIMartin</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : I think our rating went down because for about a year, mid way through last year up to mid way through this year we were just less good. Many reasons for it.. Not trying to rehash that.<br><br>Today though, we are certainly pulling all the stops and pushing all the buttons to own every single experience. We have wait time issues that are still impacting things that we have a plan to solve soon. And there are new realities that just were not there 5 years ago... Just think of all the upgrades the incumbents are doing and how much that has caused all sorts of problems. Even Bell Technical solutions.. They've hired thousands of new staff.. Those are the ones doing installs and repairs now.. All this change impacts us in ways that were not there before.<br><br>I don't see our size as the primary factor in all of this. We did have to deal with a number of issues but as soon as our attention was again turned to the customer experience, you can almost instantly see where the issues are coming from. We're not perfect.. We have to work out some kinks still but none of those kinks will make a field tech show up on time... Or prevent a PIE...<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1006231" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1006231');">LondonOntGuy</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>Yeah Bell is the perfect ISP... must be the reason why you chose Teksavvy in the first place.<br> </p></div>Point I was trying to make is that Bell probably saw me and thought "Ah, another TSI customer, he can rack off, I got other more important things to do." (like go on a coffee break).  Meanwhile, the Bell customer gets service installed right at 8am. <br> </p></div>HA, yeah... right... Bell customer are always satisfied!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TSI Marc posted : Hey LondonOntGuy,<br><br>I'm just reading through this thread. I know you're frustrated with it all.. I'm trying to look at all of this from an objective point of view to see what we could have done differently. I don't know that I've read every post and maybe you already explained it but can you tell me you're thoughts on what we could do differently? What we could have done to avoid this perhaps?<br><small>--<br>Marc - CEO/TekSavvy</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:12:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1597424" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1597424');">Tx</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1597424" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1597424');">Tx</a>:</said><p>But we're not talking about Bell.  That's comparing apples and oranges, and you know it.  how many million customers vs teksavvy's....... #?<br><br>Review the history.  5 years ago, a negative teksavvy review was rare.  As they grow, so does the complaints, so you cannot keep comparing a transport to a smart car, two different entities. <br><br>Teksavvy used to have a 96% rating before i signed up with DSLR i believe it was, near perfect.  Years later we're reaching the mid 80's.  <br><br>Your point about making a post about good service then you argue rating.  86% rating as you said is what speaks for itself is it not?  SO really people do post, just not discussion type posts.  What is there to discuss?  <br><br>Happy customer: My install went great, thanks TSI!  <br>TSI: Glad to hear, let us know if you have any questions<br>community: Uh.....great! <br><br>EOS.<br><br>People buy the new 80" Sharp LCD for i forget how much now and it works... what are they going to do?  Come on forums and praise sharp?  No, their just happy it works because they paid for it.  <br><br>If they paid for it and it doesn't work... anger takes over and it's now a battle to inform other consumers about their experience, thus reviews/topics to discuss.<br><br>So we really cannot compare Bell's rating of whom have been in business for how long? With Teksavvy, you have to honestly admit, that is not a fair comparison because even if Teksavvy had the same rating, it's still not a fair comparison, they are still worlds apart.<br> </p></div>Why can't we compare with Bell... it's like people believe this sort of stuff doesn't happen to Bell customer... well it does. If incumbents have their own problem with their own customer, what the heck do you think it's going to happen to Teksavvy and others?<br><br>Also, I named Acanac.<br><br>Is there anyone else that has a higher rating then Teksavvy ?<br><br>So their rating dropped, it's still respectable... is it not?<br><br>Things could be better... but heck, things could always be better. <br><br>Also, it's discussion post that gets attention... anyone knows this.<br><br> <br> </p></div>I absolutely guarantee you, it's a rarity with for example a bell customer.  You seem fixated on a fictional rating system.  As far as i'm concerned, and i say this very seriously.  DSLR != represent Teksavvy as a business.  <br><br>Let's also not forget, even if Bell didn't show and a customer complaints... look first month of service is free.  Things they can do to make a customer happy.  Something Teksavvy has to brainstorm on how to do themselves without going broke.  I say broke loosely because there aren't THAT many messed up installs to bankrupt them. <br> </p></div>While I'm fixated on ratings... you're fixated on complaining post. It's only normal to have more complaining post when your numbers of customer grows. Either it stays proportional and you here more about it (also add the cable side which Tek didn't have 5 years ago) or things are going to fast for Tek to handle but are still able to keep a good portion of customer happy.<br><br>Bell can maybe make deals for the customers, but at one point he will not be happy without service... There's multiple reason why not everyone is with Bell.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LondonOntGuy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1632267" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1632267');">kovy</a>:</said><p>Yeah Bell is the perfect ISP... must be the reason why you chose Teksavvy in the first place.<br> </p></div>Point I was trying to make is that Bell probably saw me and thought "Ah, another TSI customer, he can rack off, I got other more important things to do." (like go on a coffee break).  Meanwhile, the Bell customer gets service installed right at 8am. ]]></description>
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