Topic 'Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook' in forum 'Security' - dslreports.com

Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:21:49 EDT

NormanS posted :

said by Zoder:

and if all the major ISPs ...

That is the problem, though; all the "major ISPs" aren't in the ISP business, they are in the entertainment business. There is nothing like a 30% profit margin in wireline communications. You want the big profit margin? Forget farming, retail, and wireline communications. The big money is in law, medicine, and entertainment (including sports).
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:12:40 EDT

OZO posted : Any policing never was, is or will be free. I guess it's obvious, that it takes money to do the job. But MAFIAA envision of this world this way - you have to pay money for policing (even if you don't want to deal with them or hear about them at all) and they get their profits from that... Very clever, don't you think? :(

MAFIAA is corrupting this country, paying lobbyists to make new laws in their behalf and making everyone around to pay for their profits... And they are allowed to do so only because people don't see it. But that's how the mafia works.
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:53:07 EDT

Zoder posted : and if all the major ISPs stood together and said no? You think they would pull their content from every major wireline provider? They'd have no ad revenue and it would be a disaster for them.

Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:11:40 EDT

NormanS posted :

said by Zoder:

Right now they have the safe harbor protections under the DMCA. Who has the stronger lobby on Capitol Hill? Telecom or MPAA/RIAA?

Doesn't matter. MPAA/RIAA calls the shots if "Telecom" wants to carry TV.
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Norman
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:10:00 EDT

Zoder posted : Right now they have the safe harbor protections under the DMCA. Who has the stronger lobby on Capitol Hill? Telecom or MPAA/RIAA?

Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:14:12 EDT

Kearnstd posted : the ISPs are playing Piracy Police not just because they have become or already where cable companies but also because they know if they did not agree to six strikes that the MAFIAA would lobby something far more costly for them to setup into law.
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:59:20 EDT

NormanS posted :

said by Blackbird:

Ironic, isn't it? Users pay an ISP for contracted communications services, and the ISP provides free private policing and enforcement services on demand for special-interest groups who pay them... nothing.

Users paying for FiOS, Prism, U-verse, Xfinity, and whatever other slick bundling market name is out there, are not paying for just communications services. MSOs, like Comcast, Cox, SuddenLink, and TWC/RR are first, and foremost, content delivery services, and are beholden to content providers. And telcos, such as AT&T (U-verse), CenturyLink (Prism), and Verizon (FiOS) have joined the ranks of content delivery services, and, thus, also beholden to the content providers. They have to act favorably to the MPAA/RIAA if they want content to deliver; they have to protect the content revenue stream.

And please do realize, these enforcements have not been warranted by any court, established by any actual evidence found in possession of the user, or any other meaningful due-process event. ... But I am responding to the sheer un-Constitutionality of turning user-paid, contracted service providers into free private police agencies, judges, and juries based purely on simple accusation or circumstantial evidence... all with the tacit or explicit approval of legislatures and the US legal system.)

You are not talking about state sanctions against citizens, which is the purview of the U.S. Constitution. This comes down to contract law, and the rights and responsibilities of the parties to contracts.
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Norman
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:31:36 EDT

Blackbird posted : Ironic, isn't it? Users pay an ISP for contracted communications services, and the ISP provides free private policing and enforcement services on demand for special-interest groups who pay them... nothing. And please do realize, these enforcements have not been warranted by any court, established by any actual evidence found in possession of the user, or any other meaningful due-process event. (Full disclosure: I've not downloaded a solitary piece of copyrighted music, video, or pirated software in my life - paid or otherwise, nor do I intend to. I have zero interests in those areas. But I am responding to the sheer un-Constitutionality of turning user-paid, contracted service providers into free private police agencies, judges, and juries based purely on simple accusation or circumstantial evidence... all with the tacit or explicit approval of legislatures and the US legal system.)
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Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:12:12 EDT

NormanS posted :

said by Dude111:

How do the ISPs know what is and isnt good material??

They don't. They will not be monitoring your traffic for "bad" bits. They will be responding to DMCA complaints filed by IP owners, or their agents.
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Norman
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Re: AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:29:52 EDT

HELLFIRE posted : Wasn't there a joke RFC that talked about the Omniscent flag or bit that'd tell you whether this was good or bad?

Regards

Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:59:58 EDT

Dude111 posted : How do the ISPs know what is and isnt good material??

AT&T block ur YouTube + Facebook

Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:14:32 EDT

Sindows 7 posted :

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1cZfnglIo

A set of leaked internal AT&T training documents obtained by TorrentFreak reveal that the Internet provider will start sending out anti-piracy warning notices to its subscribers on November 28. Customers whose accounts are repeatedly flagged for alleged copyright infringements will have their access to frequently visited websites blocked, until they complete an online copyright course. It’s expected that most other participating ISPs will start their versions of the anti-piracy plan on the same date.

»torrentfreak.com/att-starts-six-···-121012/

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