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Kardinal
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This is tragic, but honestly........

It's a tragedy, but it's also a "What were you thinking?" story at the same time. IT'S NOVEMBER!

Boy, grandfather die after falling through ice

A nine-year-old boy and his 64-year-old grandfather have died after falling through the ice while skating on a private lake in Quebec's Eastern Townships.

Quebec provincial police said the incident happened on Friday at around 4:45 p.m. ET on a private lake just off Hébert road, in Ascot Corner.

The two were skating on thin ice when it collapsed, and the boy fell into the freezing water. The man tried to rescue him, but slipped into the lake, which is about two metres deep.

Why on earth would someone think the ice is thick enough after perhaps a week of weather around, not far below, the freezing mark? And where were the parents to say NO?
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dirtyjeffer
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why isn't there a fence around that lake...why won't people think of the children.



Last Parade

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reply to Kardinal
I went and looked up the weather for that area and it's been hovering around 0 during the day, before anybody checks.



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said by dirtyjeffer:

why isn't there a fence around that lake...why won't people think of the children.

Even though it's a sad story, you just made me lol.


dirtyjeffer
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at 9, i knew better, so i'm not sure why the 64 year old didn't.



Wolfie00
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Yep, especially in Canada, it's one of the basic safety rules you learn at a very young age.

Perhaps a manifestation of this?



Anav
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reply to dirtyjeffer
Whats tragic is that the parents trusted the care of their child to the grandparent and lost both. Regardless of relationship perhaps parents should be aware of all plans regarding their kids.

At least you didnt title this thread........ "Breaking News.....



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reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

why isn't there a fence around that lake...why won't people think of the children.

Don't give people idea's...
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said by Last Parade:

I went and looked up the weather for that area and it's been hovering around 0 during the day, before anybody checks.

but Friday we had rain for a few hours during the evening and during the day, i had to go outside for about 20 min in a t-shirt so it was not that cold the day before...

The week was also not that cold... In fact, i do not believe we had enough cold weather to try and go on the ice...

I am sad for the lost but the adult should have know better...


Gone
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said by J E F F:

Don't give people idea's...

Ideas of what? The kid was with his grandfather.


urbanriot
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It was in reference to fencing everything



Kardinal
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I can't find an online story about it yet, but this was recently Tweeted by CBC Ottawa:

14-yr-old boy fell through ice near Innes & Trim Roads. Paramedics say he swam out & is in stable condition in hospital. #cbcott #ottnews

(this location is in the far east end of the city) It's been cold enough to form and keep ice for perhaps 72 hours.
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Gone
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Down here in the banana belt you just don't go out onto natural ice - period. Those that do are taking their life into their hands.



Kardinal
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I don't have a problem with natural ice, but common sense about what could be weight bearing and what probably isn't seems to be lacking so far this fall.

Here is a picture of where this latest one happened. It seems that common sense isn't common.
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vue666
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reply to Kardinal

said by Kardinal:

And where were the parents to say NO?

Parents? I suspect the grandparents where babysitting for the parents. And the parents of the grandparents (great grand parents) have passed on...

Yes...certainly a tragedy...


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said by Gone:

Down here in the banana belt you just don't go out onto natural ice - period. Those that do are taking their life into their hands.

Hum... going on ice during winter is not something that will kill you if you take precaution. I do know how many accident they had but Ste-Anne de la Pérade has an ice village (for ice fishing) since 1930...

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»www.pechepoissonsdeschenaux-js.c···lish.htm


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said by XoX:

Hum... going on ice during winter is not something that will kill you if you take precaution. I do know how many accident they had but Ste-Anne de la Pérade has an ice village (for ice fishing) since 1930...

Our average daytime winter temperature in the dead of January in the Niagara Region is 0C. It is above freezing in December, February and March. Down here in this part of Canada, going on the ice for *anything* during the winter is a very unwise thing to do. It is simply not cold enough for a layer of ice thick enough to support the weight of a person to form, and even if it does the very next day it could be warm enough for you to fall right through it.

I would imagine that up in Quebec things are considerably different as far as winter temperatures go.


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Yeah, *ususally* we get good, thick ice.
But not in November. And I would never trust it until Jan (depending on the season). Last year was tricky, too warm, the ice was constantly thawing/freezing, making it untrustworthy (to me) I had never seen such a crazy cycle. It was the first in many, many years I didn't go out on the ice.
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said by Anav:

Whats tragic is that the parents trusted the care of their child to the grandparent and lost both.

Come on, the grandpa was 64 years old... He wasnt 90 with dementia...

PX Eliezer
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Just very sad all around.

The grandparents lived in the same area AFAIK so that they made this mistake about the ice was surprising.

RIP.


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