 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
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| Safely storing fuel I want to make sure I am storing fuel safely. I keep the gas for the generator in approved gas cans and I keep the propane tanks for the grill outside on the back deck. I keep the gas cans in my semi attached garage.
The garage has components for the burglar alarm (siren and sensors).
I am just checking as we had a major explosion in the city last night due to a gas leak. I do keep fire extinguishers handy. |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | The explosion was not from someone storing fuel incorrectly...
Just keep fuels always from ignition points - don't store fuel in a place that has a gas heater, water heater, or furnace or the like. If fumes have no chance of igniting - then it can't ignite without someone providing the ignition.
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 leiboldPremium,MVM
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| Adding: do not store fuel (gasoline or propane) exposed to the sun (or excessive heat) to prevent expanding fuel from leaking.
If you can't completely avoid some exposure to heat then do not completely fill tanks/containers to allow for expansion in the fuel volume.
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BobAccount deleted
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New Jersey | reply to IowaCowboy
That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building. |
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 SwedishRiderRider on the StormPremium
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Connecticut
kudos:1 | said by Bob:That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building.
So if I am understanding this correctly, it is illegal in NJ to use a gas grill on a homeowner's deck so long as there is a BBQ tank of any size in or around the grill on the deck? One would need a to pipe into a house propane system to legally use a grill on a deck?!? |
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 LazManPremium
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canada | reply to leibold
said by leibold:Adding: do not store fuel (gasoline or propane) exposed to the sun (or excessive heat) to prevent expanding fuel from leaking.
If you can't completely avoid some exposure to heat then do not completely fill tanks/containers to allow for expansion in the fuel volume.
That's part of the reason why LPG cylinders are to be filled to a max of 80% of capacity... To leave expansion room. (The other is to allow room for vaporization to occur)
Any place fuel is stored should be appropriately ventilated; ideally in a separate building. |
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BobAccount deleted
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said by SwedishRider:said by Bob:That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building.
So if I am understanding this correctly, it is illegal in NJ to use a gas grill on a homeowner's deck so long as there is a BBQ tank of any size in or around the grill on the deck? One would need a to pipe into a house propane system to legally use a grill on a deck?!? For a multiple-unit building, you cannot use a propane grill on a deck or within 5 feet of the building. You would need a 'hardwired' natural gas grill (or charcoal). |
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said by SwedishRider:said by Bob:That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building.
So if I am understanding this correctly, it is illegal in NJ to use a gas grill on a homeowner's deck so long as there is a BBQ tank of any size in or around the grill on the deck? One would need a to pipe into a house propane system to legally use a grill on a deck?!? Slightly OT, but - Then there are the terms of the Apt/Condo/Rental Lease that do not have any bearing on the Law. I know in some Complexes in my area, no grilling of any sort is allowed on Decks or if ground floor, under the eaves or Decks. It has to be outdoors and in the open. There have been too many fires caused due to improper storing of Grills after use.
Sorta, like my Folks Condo, they limit the times of the year that vehicles can be washed. The water bill is paid by bulk for the 26 units. And usage billing is time managed, just like some Electric bills. |
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peterboroAvatars are for posersPremium
join:2006-11-03
Peterborough, ON | reply to IowaCowboy
I store gas for my generator where it was meant to be stored...in the gas tank of my car in the garage. |
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 Anonymous_AnonymousPremium
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said by IowaCowboy:I want to make sure I am storing fuel safely. I keep the gas for the generator in approved gas cans and I keep the propane tanks for the grill outside on the back deck. I keep the gas cans in my semi attached garage.
The garage has components for the burglar alarm (siren and sensors).
I am just checking as we had a major explosion in the city last night due to a gas leak. I do keep fire extinguishers handy.
I keep my top off never know when there will be a earthquake since the fuel can be used for trade such as water etc...
I can store 16.5 gallons in it.
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Well, does your car at least turn into something else? Sometimes I turn it into a trashcan. Hmm... |
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join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
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said by Bob:said by SwedishRider:said by Bob:That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building.
So if I am understanding this correctly, it is illegal in NJ to use a gas grill on a homeowner's deck so long as there is a BBQ tank of any size in or around the grill on the deck? One would need a to pipe into a house propane system to legally use a grill on a deck?!? For a multiple-unit building, you cannot use a propane grill on a deck or within 5 feet of the building. You would need a 'hardwired' natural gas grill (or charcoal). Here in a multi-unit building you cannot use a grill of any kind on a deck, balcony or within 5 feet of the the building. |
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 tmh
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said by peterboro:I store gas for my generator where it was meant to be stored...in the gas tank of my car in the garage.
I'm curious how you get it out again. I think it's a great source of emergency fuel. I've tried with a siphon but no luck. |
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 Sc0ttKneedraggerPremium
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Stockholm, NJ | reply to IowaCowboy
do you have a shed? keep them stored in it. preferably LOCKED. |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to tmh
Siphon or hand pump... |
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Sc0ttKneedraggerPremium
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Stockholm, NJ | that's not as easy as it sounds. you have to get past the ball in the filler neck in most cars now. at least in Ford vehicles. |
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peterboroAvatars are for posersPremium
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Peterborough, ON | reply to tmh
said by tmh :said by peterboro:I store gas for my generator where it was meant to be stored...in the gas tank of my car in the garage.
I'm curious how you get it out again. I think it's a great source of emergency fuel. I've tried with a siphon but no luck. I can siphon it out quite easily or pull the fuel line off the carbs and pump it into a can with the car's electric fuel pump. The fuel line is outside the car as it feeds into dual quads on a supercharger for easy access. |
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Sc0ttKneedraggerPremium
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Stockholm, NJ | said by peterboro:said by tmh :said by peterboro:I store gas for my generator where it was meant to be stored...in the gas tank of my car in the garage.
I'm curious how you get it out again. I think it's a great source of emergency fuel. I've tried with a siphon but no luck. I can siphon it out quite easily or pull the fuel line off the carbs and pump it into a can with the car's electric fuel pump. The fuel line is outside the car as it feeds into dual quads on a supercharger for easy access. i guess a fitting with a hose on the pressure port would work too, but a gas can would probably be much easier. |
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LazManPremium
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canada | said by Sc0tt:i guess a fitting with a hose on the pressure port would work too, but a gas can would probably be much easier.
3/4" drill bit, cordless drill, and a catch can works, too... Best used on someone else's car, though...  |
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BobAccount deleted
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| said by LazMan:3/4" drill bit, cordless drill, and a catch can works, too... Best used on someone else's car, though...
Back in the 1970's, an ice pick was the tool of choice. |
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said by Bob:said by SwedishRider:said by Bob:That would be illegal if you were in a multiple-unit dwelling in New Jersey. Propane tanks cannot be stored or used on a deck. And they must be at least 5 feet from the building.
So if I am understanding this correctly, it is illegal in NJ to use a gas grill on a homeowner's deck so long as there is a BBQ tank of any size in or around the grill on the deck? One would need a to pipe into a house propane system to legally use a grill on a deck?!? For a multiple-unit building, you cannot use a propane grill on a deck or within 5 feet of the building. You would need a 'hardwired' natural gas grill (or charcoal). Okay, that's strictly for MDUs and not for a single family home.
JUst so we clear that up... I have propane tanks and a grill on my deck and I live in a single family home. Perfectly legal. |
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