 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP join:2001-03-25 United State kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Saudi Arabia Implements Electronic Tracking System for Women »www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/no···ts-women from »www.hardocp.com/news/2012/11/24/···r_women/
"Saudi Arabia criticised over text alerts tracking women's movements
Male 'guardians' receive text message whenever women leave country under new system..." -- Ant @ AQFL.net and AntFarm.ma.cx. Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use this forum or better, »community.norton.com ! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer. |
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 DustynPremium join:2003-02-26 Ontario, CAN kudos:10 | Wow. That is some kind of crazy. And although I'll admit I do not understand that way of life, I don't think I'd want to either. |
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1 edit | reply to antdude Nasty stuff, antdude  Squirted this out on Twitter the other day: »venturebeat.com/2012/11/22/saudi···by-text/ Edit: Also at RawStory: »www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/22/s···r-women/ |
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 jaykaykay4 Ever YoungPremium,MVM join:2000-04-13 Scottsdale, AZ kudos:22 | reply to antdude In that country and others in the Middle East, women are less than nothing. They are treated as baby machines, cooks, and all kinds of things to wait on men, but like people/individuals? No! That is exactly the kind of thing that the radicals of those countries would like to put upon free countries such as the US. I don't find this unusual for them at all, sad to say. (end of rant) |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 Reviews:
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| The US was founded on the idea of individual rights regardless of race, gender etc. It was the first, and so far, the only country in history to do so and look at the results. The Arab countries, along with many others, have been a mixture of tribal and collectivist societies and look where they are. If Saudi Arabia didn't have oil (and they nationalized those oil wells) they'd still be riding camels in the desert.
However in today's PC dominated world we're supposed to consider their culture just as good and valid as our ours. I don't and won't. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 dandelionPremium,MVM join:2003-04-29 Germantown, TN kudos:4 | reply to antdude I'm sure a lot of this can be under the auspices of "we are protecting you". Beware any "protection" that can invade privacy and be a simple excuse for domination. |
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 KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to StuartMW said by StuartMW:The US was founded on the idea of individual rights regardless of race, gender etc. It was the first, and so far, the only country in history to do so and look at the results. The Arab countries, along with many others, have been a mixture of tribal and collectivist societies and look where they are. If Saudi Arabia didn't have oil (and they nationalized those oil wells) they'd still be riding camels in the desert.
However in today's PC dominated world we're supposed to consider their culture just as good and valid as our ours. I don't and won't. I think they where pretty horrified to see women driving HUMVEEs during the first golf war. as well as flying aircraft like the A-10 Warthog. I mean that must have had their men hiding in the closet for days at the mere thought of a female flying an aircraft that could level a city block and still not be out of ammo! -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports |
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 OZOPremium join:2003-01-17 kudos:2 | reply to antdude That comes from their radical religion... Drop that and there would be nothing like that left or course. -- Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself... |
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 DownTheShoreThanks To All The Shore VolunteersPremium join:2003-12-02 Beautiful NJ kudos:12 Reviews:
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| More likely from the continued precedence and protection of patriarchal and misogynistic attitudes of their culture.
Women are second class citizens in most religions, not just Islam.

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 | This is one of the reasons most people don't want them here , their values and beliefs are incompatible with ours . Now they want to control women like micro chipped animals ...  |
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 OZOPremium join:2003-01-17 kudos:2 | reply to DownTheShore said by DownTheShore:Women are second class citizens in most religions, not just Islam. And I was talking about religions in general, not about Islam only... -- Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself... |
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 | reply to antdude There is no security or privacy for women who live with Arab men, only fear and oppression. |
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 DrStrangeTechnically feasiblePremium join:2001-07-23 West Hartford, CT kudos:1 1 edit | reply to antdude This is Wahabbist Islam in action. The US and others keep these radicals in power by buying their oil. The minute we get off oil [or start producing enough to supply ourselves; we're producing a lot more oil than we were a few years ago and with reduced demand we're on track to be oil-independent around 2020], we should cut them off and encourage moderates [anybody except al-Qa'ida is more moderate, including most Islamist elements] in the country to depose the house of Saud.
Normally, I don't condone meddling in another country's affairs, but since we put them in power in the first place I suppose it's only right that we take them out and prevent even more extreme elements [remember where bin Laden came from?] from coming to power. |
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 | reply to antdude Which clearly demonstrates why we don't want Sharia law here. |
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:8 | reply to StuartMW said by StuartMW:However in today's PC dominated world we're supposed to consider their culture just as good and valid as our ours. I don't and won't. That's your knee-jerk reflex showing. I likely have the sort of viewpoint that you'd call "PC", and I can assure you that people who think my way tend not to shy from calling a repressive totalitarian theocratic monarchy by name.
Us liberals are the ones that tend to take The Handmaid's Tale as a serious warning, after all. |
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1 edit | said by dave:...I can assure you that people who think my way tend not to shy from calling a repressive totalitarian theocratic monarchy by name. The US gummint won't. Neither will many others.
The whole point of Political Correctness (PC) is to limit speech. Can't have people calling things what they are. It's analogous to NewSpeak in Orwell's 1984 and has had the same result. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 Link LoggerPremium,MVM join:2001-03-29 Calgary, AB kudos:3 | reply to Crowbar1 said by Crowbar1:This is one of the reasons most people don't want them here , their values and beliefs are incompatible with ours . Now they want to control women like micro chipped animals ...  I don't really care what they do in their country, that's their deal, and if you basically take 50% (or in most cases more then 50%) of your population out of the game, well then your position in the world is likely to remain in the lower half of productivity, progressiveness, innovation, business, etc countries in the world.
Now of course if they move to or visit a country with different laws/rights/etc then I expect them to be subject to those laws/rights/etc, otherwise they simply shouldn't go there.
I don't go to some countries in the middle east because my relationship and such with my wife would be in conflict with their laws, so we don't.
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:8 | said by Link Logger: well then your position in the world is likely to remain in the lower half of productivity, progressiveness, innovation, business, etc countries in the world. Except that they have oil and thus money. |
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 harald join:2010-10-22 Columbus, OH kudos:1 | reply to antdude Not that I disagree with earlier posts, but you should know that if you live in Latin America as an ex-pat, and your wife attempts to travel to the US with the kids to visit the grandparents, she's going to need your written permission. |
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:8 | reply to StuartMW I think that the government not calling out the saudi regime on human rights violations is more to do with oil and diplomacy than with some imaginary "political correctness". |
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