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gugarci
Premium
join:2004-02-25
Lyndhurst, NJ
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to jmcging

Re: Verizon and AMC dispute

Has AMC been taken off the air due to the dispute? I recently got the double play but only for my internet and phone.

I decided to keep DTV since the service has been very reliable during the last 2 hurricane. While Comcast's internet service went down for numerous days during Irene and Sandy.

Anyway my kids and I are huge Walking Dead fans and would not have been happy campers. We would of been insanely irate campers.
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matcarl
Premium
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
It's on until at least December 31 right now.

NNard

join:2012-06-26
Bethpage, NY
reply to jmcging
I believe tonight's episode of the Walking Dead is the mid-season finale.


gugarci
Premium
join:2004-02-25
Lyndhurst, NJ
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to jmcging
That's good to know. Like I've told my kids many times already all the providers have these issues. Hopefully it will get done. Unfortunately it's people like us that get caught in the middle every time there's a dispute.
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jjk26

join:2008-11-12
reply to jmcging
Luckily my verizon contract is about to end. If they don't resolve this soon, I'm going to switch before February. I'm hooked on The Walking Dead!


aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
said by jjk26:

Luckily my verizon contract is about to end. If they don't resolve this soon, I'm going to switch before February. I'm hooked on The Walking Dead!

You can always watch it from a bunch of other sources using VOD.


Ike1

join:2012-06-02
Newark, NJ
reply to jjk26
said by jjk26:

Luckily my verizon contract is about to end. If they don't resolve this soon, I'm going to switch before February. I'm hooked on The Walking Dead!

If you switch, how do you know that AMC won't pick a fight with your new provider?

A lot of ignorant people on Twitter are believing this AMC BS. I keep trying to correct them. Look, Verizon can be scummy, but I rarely hear about Verizon ever having a dispute with a cable channel, whereas AMC is getting into knock-down-drag-out fights with providers constantly. First it was their months-long battle with Dish where they kept immaturely and indignantly repeating "NOT AVAILABLE ON DISH" at every possible opportunity, then Suddenlink, and now VZ. So somehow, I don't think Verizon is the main party at fault here -- do you?

I'm also surprised that Verizon has not yet retaliated against AMC with a fake-grassroots Web site in the style of AMC's phoney-baloney "keepAMC" site. I hope Verizon continues to show restraint and be the adults in the room, even if their statements about this dispute are sometimes poorly-edited, long-winded, and weirdly milquetoast.

I do NOT want to pay more for the same channels. I like some AMC programs but I hope VZ drives a hard bargain. Do you think AMC really has the cojones to pull itself from Verizon FiOS and wage another bizarre "NOT AVAILABLE ON" months-long tantrum? I say call their freaking bluff.

The Walking Dead doesn't return until mid-February anyway. Until then AMC has NOTHING.


birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:9
said by Ike1:

Do you think AMC really has the cojones to pull itself from Verizon FiOS and wage another bizarre "NOT AVAILABLE ON" months-long tantrum? I say call their freaking bluff.

The Walking Dead doesn't return until mid-February anyway. Until then AMC has NOTHING.

Trouble is, the months long tantrum brings it up to the start of the next season, then the subscribers start wailing "boo-hoo there's no WD what's up with that how could VZ let this happen", then who's in the catbird seat? Two and a half months of no revenue, followed by several years of plus revenue, more than they'd have gotten otherwise. Worked for AMC against Dish, then Suddenlink, why not VZ?

I'm not complaining though. Just call it slightly more transparent negotiations.


lovetv

@verizon.net
reply to alaRobear
I just wanted to mention that you don't have to drop a provider just because they're dropping shows. You can watch them on your laptop by doing a search for the episodes.

I watch gh on youtube because there is no commericals.


bull3964

@verizon.net
reply to jmcging
The thing that's particularly low about AMC's tactics this time is that they started this campaign before any contract negotiations broke down. They are starting it earlier and earlier every time. They are basically painting a false statement.

AMC: Verizon is going to take away your channel! Rally and tell them you want to keep it!

Verizon: What the hell, we just started good faith negotiations for the renewal of the carriage agreement. Why are you trying to turn our userbase against us?

It's a slimy move. AMC lost both revenue and face when it was removed from Dish for so long so they changed up tactics this time and have started the "keepAMC" campaign MUCH further out from the date at which the current agreement expires.

I love TWD, but I hope Verizon leaves the negotiating table over this. AMC has soured the negotiations by incensing Verizon's user base far sooner than they had any right to as a premptive negotiating move. I think TWD's ratings have gone to AMC's head and they think they are in a stronger negotiating position than they really are.

Meanwhile, EVERYONE (not just Verizon users) had to suffer that dumb crawler across the bottom of the screen with a shrunken picture while they are trying to ENJOY the shows that AMC puts out. That, by itself, made me wish for Verizon to drop the channel. I'll catch the episodes on Netflix when they come out which are higher quality than the crap that AMC pushes out anyways.


icemannyr1

join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ
AMC Networks is a division of Cablevision. The same company that had refused to give MSG HD and MSG+ HD to FiOS.
This is just a continuation of Cablevision trying to be nasty with Verizon.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
said by icemannyr1:

AMC Networks is a division of Cablevision. The same company that had refused to give MSG HD and MSG+ HD to FiOS.
This is just a continuation of Cablevision trying to be nasty with Verizon.

AMC Networks is nasty with every Satellite and Cable company when renewals come around, it is not specific to Verizon.

PJL

join:2008-07-24
Long Beach, CA
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by kes601:

said by icemannyr1:

AMC Networks is a division of Cablevision. The same company that had refused to give MSG HD and MSG+ HD to FiOS.
This is just a continuation of Cablevision trying to be nasty with Verizon.

AMC Networks is nasty with every Satellite and Cable company when renewals come around, it is not specific to Verizon.

You're right. AMC likes to yell a lot and scare subscribers -- all to get leverage in their negotiations. Too bad they don't negotiate on the merits.


Greg2600

join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ
reply to jmcging
That was my original point. I personally will just watch the few AMC shows I watch via a torrent or something. I don't care. The Dolan's are heinous.


Dan A

join:2008-01-03
Kendall Park, NJ
reply to kes601
said by kes601:

said by icemannyr1:

AMC Networks is a division of Cablevision. The same company that had refused to give MSG HD and MSG+ HD to FiOS.
This is just a continuation of Cablevision trying to be nasty with Verizon.

AMC Networks is nasty with every Satellite and Cable company when renewals come around, it is not specific to Verizon.

Yes and No Cablevision spun off it's rainbow media devision as AMC Networks a independent company but i think like MSG another former Cablevision division is still controlled by Cablevision founder Charles Dolen and his son James Dolen the head of Cablevision.


Greg2600

join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ
reply to jmcging
Dolan is still the majority (by a long shot) shareholder. It's their company.


Dan A

join:2008-01-03
Kendall Park, NJ
Yes Sumner Redstone pulled the same kind on maneuver spitting up CBS and Viacom menawie continuing to run and control both companies through his movie theatre company National Amusements.


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA
reply to amarryat
said by amarryat:

With all the friggin commercials, AMC should be paying Verizon to carry their channels.

ah you must be a old timer that remembers when CABLE channels you PAID for had no commercials much less those god damn distracting icons all over the screen and the characters walking on the bottom of the screen.

I no longer watch AMC, yes they show good movies , but they are unwatchable with those distractions. Am I the only one in here with A.D.D ? otherwise known as being NORMAL ? (a.k.a mammals )(rapid eye movement to see threats )

Verizon might be loosing me in FEB when my contract ends anyways. I will keep the internet only. My latest bitch from them, they want me to turn in my DVR in order to stop the home dvr service? WTF they added the service remotely, they can remove it remotely, but hey wait if you tell a customer to turn in a DVR full of recorded shows that will stop them in their tracks.

yesterday we lost internet service, finally called in and this time they can't see my account with my FULL account number as it has appeared since I went to fios from the old service with GTE, so not having a phone with them it created a problem until I remembered giving them my wife's cell # a few years back. that worked , but not my account number WTF and it took 26 minutes to reset the ONT, something that usually takes them 3 minutes AFTER you convince them you know what you are doing and have shut the router down for a whole minute and the computers too and it's on their end.
Expand your moderator at work


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA

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reply to crgauth

Re: Verizon and AMC dispute

said by crgauth:

My $.02 worth
When it comes to a la carte services, I don't think most of us can afford what it would really cost to just get the channels we want.
For this example:
AMC reportedly charges around $.23/subscriber. So given an estimate I found on the Internet of approx 81M households having cable. I believe AMC is typically included to most users. That means that they get $18.6M/month. Last week Walking dead got 9M viewers. And assuming every one of those people would want to keep the channel, their cost would jump to over $2/month.
And AMC has about an average carriage fee. So if you like the cheap channels and not the expensive ones, you could possibly save money.
And for those that say I will just drop the channel and find the programs I want online, if that happens too much, the channels won't be able to afford the quality programming and it will disappear.

All of this being said, it appears to be a never ending cycle. Channels want more money, eventually our costs go up.
But this is no different than sports teams, movies and most other forms of entertainment.

Ok, next person want to use the soapbox?

yes , but only after you read what C BANd channels used to cost versus " CABLE " channels A LA CARTE is NOT expensive if you buy what you watch only.

with me it leaves out ALL sports, and 80% of the rest. my kids watch a couple of cartoon channels, excluding boomerang that is only in the most expensive tier so they can f--- every parent with a kid. but I have seen a new trend showing up for the last 10 years and at first I thought it was crazy , but now i see my kids and grandkids watch their shows over the internet and not from Verizon, so by the time I check out from this world I can only assume that Cable companies are going to go the way of AOL and dial up. think about it, and start dumping the stock while it's still worth it.


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA

1 recommendation

reply to somebodeez
said by somebodeez:

AMC isn't what it use to be. I remember the days when they didn't cut and interrupt movies with commercials. We *rarely* watch that channel now.
C'mon, Fios and bring on TCM in HD !

YES +1 TMC in HD no commercials, no fucking icons on the bottom of the screen. movies in full length


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA
reply to Tarheel72
said by Tarheel72:

Settle down people. In case you haven't heard the world will end on December 21 anyway (I saw it on the History Channel. Or was it NatGeo?) Anyway, I got my Mayan calendar and my tin foil hat, stocked up on beef jerky and water purification tabs so I don't need no stinking cable.

LOL you must be watching that bible thumping channels with dual wifes and magget eating contests talk about channels we can afford to loose. no programming, and no cost to make those lousy shows but they want more money each year, so the nolans can buy 18000.00 umbrella hangers LOL


Rick4769

join:2012-11-21
Buffalo, NY
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon FiOS
reply to rtcy
"AMC isn't what it use to be. I remember the days when they didn't cut and interrupt movies with commercials. We *rarely* watch that channel now."

I agree, AMC is absolutely unwatchable as the movies are so cut up with commercial interruptions. To make matters worse, they also cut scenes out of the original movies which virtually ruins the movie.
I have TCM-HD with Time Warner and it is one of my favorite channels. I would not switch to FIOS unless TCM-HD was in their lineup.

WayneF

join:2006-05-12
Plano, TX

1 recommendation

That's my vote too. Bring on TCM HD, and forget about AMC.


somebodeez
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-24
here
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to Rick4769
said by Rick4769:

"AMC isn't what it use to be. I remember the days when they didn't cut and interrupt movies with commercials. We *rarely* watch that channel now."

I agree, AMC is absolutely unwatchable as the movies are so cut up with commercial interruptions. To make matters worse, they also cut scenes out of the original movies which virtually ruins the movie.
I have TCM-HD with Time Warner and it is one of my favorite channels. I would not switch to FIOS unless TCM-HD was in their lineup.

IMHO, TCM in SD is still better than AMC HD. IDK about Time Warner but in this area, the only other available cable co. is Comcast and Fios beats the crap out of Comcast quality wise.

robjlevin

join:2002-10-30
Millington, NJ
reply to jmcging
Just seen on Twitter: Verizon FiOS @VerizonFiOS
Hooray! We've reached an agreement with AMC Networks. Thanks for being a loyal #FiOS customer.


Jamesbobo

@verizon.net
reply to somebodeez
Verizon has just announced on Facebook that they have reached an agreement with AMC and there will be no interruption in service.


TitusTroy

join:2009-06-18
New York, NY
reply to robjlevin
said by robjlevin:

Just seen on Twitter: Verizon FiOS @VerizonFiOS
Hooray! We've reached an agreement with AMC Networks. Thanks for being a loyal #FiOS customer.

good to see them reach an agreement and avoid a long, contentious battle like what happened with Dish Network...now I can safely watch Walking Dead when it returns in February and the final season of Breaking Bad

maybe AMC's smear campaign worked


Ike1

join:2012-06-02
Newark, NJ
said by TitusTroy:

maybe AMC's smear campaign worked

I hope not. If it did, that means Verizon is paying a lot more for AMC. Which means our bills will go up, maybe by about $1 a month.

AMC has plenty of commercials, so I don't see what they need more money for. And as others have noted, AMC's channels in HD are atrocious-looking compared to all the other HD channels (and they look especially terrible next to a really gorgeous one with lots of bandwidth like BBCA HD). I like AMC's dramas but I hope we're not paying too much more for them. Oh well, it's all over now and we have no way of knowing the numbers that were worked out, I guess.

So, which TV provider will AMC bushwhack next?