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Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
reply to TSI Marc

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco looks like a big speed drop

MORE POWER CAPTAIN

Teksavvy:



Comcast in Chicago:



I'm in Ottawa on Fibe 175/175


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
LOL that's awesome! very cool.

yeah, your bandwidth all goes to Chicago then back to Toronto.. any speed test in Canada will be slower for you as a result.
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
reply to Qsig
run ours a few times in a row just for fun.
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
Excellent routing I see here, good ol' Bell.

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.10.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms bas2-kanata16_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca [64.230.200.135]
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dis32-ottawa23_4-1-0_100.net.bell.ca [64.230.57.40]
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms bx6-newyork83_xe2-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.187.162]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms ge4-3.br01.nyc01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.9.45]
6 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms netriver.ge2-16.br01.sea01.pccwbtn.net [63.216.14.162]
7 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms static-74-209-160-12.lynnwood.netriver.net [74.209.160.12]

Back to NY and back.

Here's a few as requested:










Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
A few months ago, I tried a Teksavvy login, brought me to Bell's walled garden I believe. I'd get Teksavvy over FTTH if I could.


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
reply to Qsig
yeah you'll always go to the states then back again..

really odd that you're not getting higher then that. Try the nexicom one for fun (lol sorry if you dont think it's fun)
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
reply to Qsig
said by Qsig:

A few months ago, I tried a Teksavvy login, brought me to Bell's walled garden I believe. I'd get Teksavvy over FTTH if I could.

haha I was just thinking if that was possible.

yeah i'm sure that will be another CRTC battle before too long.
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
reply to TSI Marc
Pfft, I'm a nerd, I think this is awesome. Hahaha.





Odd.


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
yeah. that is odd. thinking they tweaked the windowing to accommodate smaller links better..
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
reply to Qsig
odd also since ms response is 11 but max is so low..
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
reply to Qsig
what if you go to speedtest.teksavvy.com
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
Same, 20 down, 20 up. Very odd indeed.


TSI Marc
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join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
can you do a traceroute to speedtest.teksavvy.com
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
said by TSI Marc:

can you do a traceroute to speedtest.teksavvy.com

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.10.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms bas2-kanata16_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca [64.230.200.135]
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dis32-ottawa23_4-1-0_100.net.bell.ca [64.230.57.40]
4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms bx4-montreal02_so-0-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.170.174]
5 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms Limelight_bx4-montreal02.net.bell.ca [64.230.169.182]
6 18 ms 16 ms 10 ms tge6-2.fr4.yyz.llnw.net [69.28.171.109]
7 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms teksavvy.tge6-2.fr3.yyz.llnw.net [208.111.182.142]
8 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 2110.ae0.bdr01.tor.packetflow.ca [69.196.136.34]
9 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms speedtest.teksavvy.com [206.248.140.14]

This time through Montreal then Limelight.


TSI Marc
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join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28
right. we're probably the only ones you'll stay within canada because of limelight. odd bounce from ott to montreal then toronto.

something must be limiting it on the server itself. I'll have Gabe check it out tomorrow.

tx.
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


pstewart
Premium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
kudos:1
reply to TSI Marc
said by TSI Marc:

I will have to interject and say that the TekSavvy one is as equally or more, most consistent.

You know I paused here trying to think of something "smart" to say.... couldn't come up with anything haha


pstewart
Premium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
kudos:1
reply to TSI Marc
said by TSI Marc:

right. we're probably the only ones you'll stay within canada because of limelight. odd bounce from ott to montreal then toronto.

something must be limiting it on the server itself. I'll have Gabe check it out tomorrow.

tx.

If the poster is on most networks in Canada, they will stay in Canada when coming to us as well (including Bell Canada). This is something we are constantly working on improving....


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
reply to rocca

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco; Speedtest puzzle


Still only 2 options!
said by rocca:

Think it's time for us to apply and get one too then!

Rocca... IF you were serious about setting up your own Speedtest.net site(s), partly for accurate testing for your users, and partly for its advertising value, can you be sure your site will even show up as an option to the masses who hover over the Toronto Triangle?

Look at what I see now. My "Preferred Server" is now set to Radiant (which is active, and works fine, btw). I cannot even choose Nexicomm right now.

It looks like people would have to set their "Preferred Server" to the new Start test, to hopefully ensure it is even offered as a visible option.

Now, if you base one test in London, which is your DSL hub, I assume there would be no problem, as it would be the only one in the London Triangle, for now.

This is in FF17, under Windows XP/Home SP3. I'm on low-speed DSL with Start.

Are the other servers being actively excluded from my choices in real-time, for some reason?

Might Geo-location based on my IP be affecting things here? If I go to iplocation.net, two of the three services list my location as London, ON. One says Georgetown, ON. The speedtest.net test appears to be placing me in Georgetown, in their little map animation when the test is running.


Qsig

join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
reply to Qsig

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco looks like a big speed drop

Just posting some speedtests for a fellow user:

Cogeco Speedtest:



Comcast Chicago:



Toronto Nexicom:



Toronto Teksavvy:



jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
Wow... big uploads to Youtube sure won't bother you much!


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:23
reply to jasmo34

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco; Speedtest puzzle

Yes our plan is to see if we can get them established in both London and Toronto. As for why some sites only come up some times, that'd be a question for speedtest.net. Likely they do some calculations to decide who comes up likely based on round-robin or some other weighting.


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON

1 edit
said by rocca:

... As for why some sites only come up some times, that'd be a question for speedtest.net. ...

I just knew you'd say that; an inquiry is already in to support @ speedtest.net. Might I add another possible reason... the priority site listing is actually paid for!

BTW, this afternoon I got my fastest ever DL results under Firefox, on my low-speed DSL, from speedtest.net, using TORONTO/RADIANT.

I won't post the actual test image; it would be embarassing after Qsig's numbers above!
(5242/661/10ms) ... Edit: Even newer "fastest ever" DL test for me using FF (5448/663/26ms), using Kitchener/Netflash)

~~~

Edit... Some additional testing has also made some Speedtest.net options clearer. As expected, some of the test's operations and some results depend upon what SETTINGS you have chosen. Most notably, whether you have chosen a Preferred Server in SETTINGS, can affect what servers you see in a 'hover', and also what large operational buttons you see on the test screen.

I can now see 3 server choices again when I hover over Toronto (but I still never see Radiant). That is accomplished by either clearing my PREFERRED SERVER, or setting it to a server in another location; I have now set my PREFERRED SERVER to Kitchener/Netflash.

But, why don't I see all 4 that are available from Toronto? I can see up to 5 servers at other locations (Chicago IL, London ENG). Oh, the zoom level of the little map in speedtest may affect what servers you see over a particular location dot.

Hopefully, some further info from speedtest.net will explain some other things, that aren't quite explained in their FAQ's.


Davesnothere
No-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
Premium
join:2009-06-15
START Today!
kudos:7
reply to rocca
 
Having tired of this problem, I bookmarked Nexicom's server.

»nexicom.speedtest.net

When I go there by link, the site regards it as my preferred server.



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON
reply to ell

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco

Start has direct peering with Bell so if they ever do throw up a speedtest.net server Qsig should max out

»bgp.he.net/AS40788#_peers


Tedsky

join:2009-05-01
L7P0C5
FWIW, try a Speedtest with Fibrenoire (Montreal) as your preferred server.

I haven't yet received anything higher than a 20ms ping
Nothing less than 20.xx mbps DN or 2.xx UP on 20/2 service.

My 2 cents
Ted

DeViLzzz

join:2004-07-29
Sarnia, ON
Reviews:
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reply to Qsig

Re: Switched to Start from cogeco looks like a big speed drop

said by Qsig:

MORE POWER CAPTAIN

Teksavvy:




Comcast in Chicago:




I'm in Ottawa on Fibe 175/175

I want to puke and cry at the same time. If I had that I could definitely stream in 720p and 1080p. Still this must cost you mucho dollars.