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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
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$512k

So.. $512k to do WHAT exactly... ?

Prevent competitors from deploying their own services with fiber optics & coax which will be better than rusting copper?

If WV ever needed a reason to get rid of Verizon's state-wide franchise, this would probably make the top of the list..

TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
Verizon doesn't have any more though. They may be a CLEC as some ILECs are but that's it. They don't own anything so they're pretty much in the clear as far as the state trying to take their network; which by the way would NOT go over very well and WV would be in more trouble than this.


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They don't own anything so they're pretty much in the clear as far as the state trying to take their network;
Verizon Business retained all of the backhauls that run thru the areas Frontier took over. You are incorrect about Verizon not having a "network" in WV.


NormanS
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reply to tmc8080
said by tmc8080:

Prevent competitors from deploying their own services with fiber optics & coax which will be better than rusting copper?

Copper rusts?
--
Norman
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cdru
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said by NormanS:

Copper rusts?

The most common definition for rust is iron oxide, but can also mean corrosion on other metals other than iron. As a verb, it can also mean to degenerate with the passage of time with no mention specifically to iron. As an adjective, it can mean inept and slow through lack of practice or old age.

All 3 of those alternate definitions could apply to "rusting copper" although oxidizing, corroding, or more generically deteriorating copper probably would have been better.

tmc8080

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said by cdru:

said by NormanS:

Copper rusts?

The most common definition for rust is iron oxide, but can also mean corrosion on other metals other than iron. As a verb, it can also mean to degenerate with the passage of time with no mention specifically to iron. As an adjective, it can mean inept and slow through lack of practice or old age.

All 3 of those alternate definitions could apply to "rusting copper" although oxidizing, corroding, or more generically deteriorating copper probably would have been better.

They don't generally call those dried up manufacturing states and mining states the "RUST BELT" for nothing.. incumbent industries "SUCK" all the lifeblood out of a geography until it's stone dry and then leave with all the profits... As long as gullible customers think that's okay and keep paying monthly fees to Verizon and do nothing about it.. while elsewhere touting the alleged fastest broadband in the country (erroneously) is the A list of hypocrisy


cdru
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said by tmc8080:

As long as gullible customers think that's okay and keep paying monthly fees to Verizon and do nothing about it.

In this case, the hourly rate was $200-250 per hour. For consulting/project management fees, that's pretty reasonable and expected based on outsourced software development projects I've seen the contracts for. I'm not saying that Verizon isn't profiting big time, or that the contractors didn't have more billable hours than it should have taken. But both Verizon and the contractors are in the business to make money. And WV came to them. It ultimately is in WV control and if they can't run the project overall costs, that's the state's problem.