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Re: URGENT: load balancing without MLPPP

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reply to Jurjen
I have a Draytek 2950 dual wan router for sale in the for sale area of the forums

reply to Jurjen
Thanks for all the tips.

The show has been completely cancelled in the end. We're dismantling everything tomorrow. Next week's show will continue though.

The Facebook show will probably be rescheduled for April or May. I'm thinking of exploring the MLPPP options further. Probably 4 lines bound together. It will buy some extra time for getting quotes from third party ISPs as well.

At least know we know what the lines are capable of.

reply to Jurjen
This is what I will be using:
»www.amazon.com/TP-link-TL-R470T-···&sr=1-36

Reviews are generally good. (4.5 stars with 11 reviews) can load balance up to FOUR wans. $60 plus shipping.

You can't go wrong at that price.

Actually it is not free.

It does require hardware on hand.
If you don't have anything usable you still have to go out and buy some which would work to more than the cost of that router.

Also note in the subject line that the OP is looking for a load balancing without mlppp which (as you noted) this router does not do.

reply to Jurjen
Happens to all the.... HEY LOOK A SHINY THING!

...now where was I...

sorry I lost track of time... TIME...

reply to Jurjen
I would suggest a »www.peplink.com for this - used them in many, many schools.

There are THREE pieces of the pie that are equally important...
1) load balance and fail-over the two ISP connections
2) QoS to prevent any one internal device from chewing up the entire pipe
3) persistent connections, especially for HTTPS sites or applications to prevent disconnects

The peplink has a nice web-based menu to control both of these, and it actually works. Special note is the device must be intelligent enough to route HTTPS traffic to the same ISP every time, or you'll get frustrated by random sign-outs/kick back to the login screen.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time or energy to debug everyone's open source solution, but if you have the time to fidget with settings for weeks, then by all means build yourself a franken-router out of a Linux PC.

reply to mike1965
Thanks for that mike1965. I thought I was forgetting an option there

Regards

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Unfortunately, I don't have the time or energy to debug everyone's open source solution, but if you have the time to fidget with settings for weeks, then by all means build yourself a franken-router out of a Linux PC.

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reply to Jurjen
I guess I am missing something. This theater does not get used often and or has no permanent internet connection. In the original post you mention around $700 for one weeks worth or internet. Where I am at that would go to at least a few months or some more of a business grade internet or if an SLA was not needed 6 months or more of home/ small business none sla use internet with a very decent speed.

reply to Jurjen
unfortunately i dont have anything to add, but i do have a question for the OP or anyone else that has been in this situation, because i am curious after reading this thread.

does this theater have any re-occurring utility bills? water, gas, electric? i am going to say yes.

this is just my opinion, but with the demand of internet and the fact that alot of stuff is done online, it seems that a place like this should have a business rated internet connection as well as some additional business rated networking equipment.

again, i have never worked in a theater or in that industry, just my opinion.

reply to Jurjen
To get back to the last questions/remarks:

Yes, the theatre already has a connection for the offices, but it's a 5Mbit/800kbit line, so that'll be maxed out in no-time. Not only frustrating for the school kids, but also for the people in the offices that need internet for work as well. I thought I've already mentioned that internet line. That's why we wanted another line.

We're in Canada, so it's practically a third world country when it comes to internet (especially since I grew up in The Netherlands, where so many people in densely populated places already have FTTH).

I think I'll go for MLPPP (at least 4 lines) through an Indie-ISP next time: no weird load-balancing stuff and saves a lot of money.

I'll go for a powerful pfSense server. Either I'll sacrifice my own quad-core home server for the event or I'll find a proper other powerful computer/server.

Again, as mentioned, no budget for professional equipment (unless it's possible to rent, but unlikely to find that).

got it. i know each setup/business is different and what i say next is my opinion.

i have been in your situation many time. we want (or NEED) xyz, but we have no money/no budget/do it with what we have.

unfortunately, it just doesn't work that way. i wouldnt have a problem bringing in my own equipment (i run pfsense) if it was a temporary setup, but i would never give it there/leave it (not saying you did/would, just stating that, in general).

good for you for trying to make it work (doing what it takes, that is a sign that you care about making it right). but again, at some point those types of businesses/people need to remove 'there is no money for it' out of their excuse book.

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reply to tomdlgns
I know, it's a quite the battle for demands vs. no-budget. However, I can see definitely the point of not wanting to invest thousands of $$$ for only 4 days of use. If anyone knows a company that has such equipment available for short-term rental in Montreal, I'm all ears. As for bringing my own equipment: for a few days I don't mind, especially since I'll be the only one handling it.

@Clarknova: thanks, such information is very useful. I do have two old P4 machines laying around and several memory banks to give it at least 2GB. Maybe even more, if it's all compatible. Around the corner from me is a PC dump, so even more parts available if needed.

It's not our own theatre, so we're not sponsoring that.