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Jurjen

join:2010-08-18
Montreal, QC
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reply to clarknova

Re: URGENT: load balancing without MLPPP

Thanks for the suggestion.

During my search last night I too came across pfsense. Good to know that it only works on x86, I was about to (temporarily) sacrifice my quadcore server. But I have an older x86 lying around. Just need to transfer some parts and search for a third NIC. I'll bring this as a back-up, since I've also found a Tomato dual-WAN firmware to install on a router. I've tried to contact another member who did such a project intended for 25 users + a series of IP cams and other devices to ask for experiences.

Also there's a way to tweak DD-WRT for this, but it seems less reliable. Also there's EzPlanet server, but couldn't find experiences on the web.

I'll see if I can install pfsense then.

Bell does offer MLPPP, but they can't schedule in 24h. LTE wasn't offered through the business department. Like I mentioned: this is all last-minute troubleshooting, because Bell turns out to be unreliable, even to business clients.

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4

said by Jurjen:

Like I mentioned: this is all last-minute troubleshooting, because Bell turns out to be unreliable, even to business clients.

"Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part"

Bell isn't unreliable [well, kinda] but it was actually you're lack of planning that lead to your situation...a theater production like that would require months of planning...

130 kids on facebook is like asking for your connection to be hosed in under a few minutes...

Jurjen

join:2010-08-18
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·Acanac
·Bell Fibe

said by medbuyer:

Bell isn't unreliable [well, kinda] but it was actually you're lack of planning that lead to your situation...a theater production like that would require months of planning...

Don't worry, the quote was approved a month ago. The production director didn't want to have an unused internet connection laying around, so insisted on installing at the beginning of the week and dismantling at the end of the week, despite my recommendations. Next time for sure she'll have it installed two weeks in advance (we pay for a full month anyway).

FYI: yes, the first production meeting was about 2 months ago.

Thanks for not adding anything.

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4

said by Jurjen:

Don't worry, the quote was approved a month ago. The production director didn't want to have an unused internet connection laying around, so insisted on installing at the beginning of the week and dismantling at the end of the week, despite my recommendations. Next time for sure she'll have it installed two weeks in advance (we pay for a full month anyway).

FYI: yes, the first production meeting was about 2 months ago.

Thanks for not adding anything.

apparently your recommendations didn't get heeded and now you're on the end of the stick...

and if it fails, your production director have you to blame...

production meeting back 2 months ago? our small school play production took 6 months in planning...

anyway, I see others have suggested pfsense already which I would have recommended as well or dual wan routers but like what others have told you, 130 will crush all of your short planned production....and yes, even with the combined bandwidth...

my .02 cents...

Jurjen

join:2010-08-18
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·Acanac
·Bell Fibe

said by medbuyer:

production meeting back 2 months ago? our small school play production took 6 months in planning...

Yes, a school play production. We're a professional company that exists already over 20 years, presenting a new piece every week.

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4

said by Jurjen:

said by medbuyer:

production meeting back 2 months ago? our small school play production took 6 months in planning...

Yes, a school play production. We're a professional company that exists already over 20 years, presenting a new piece every week.

your production director still have you to blame if it fails...its like your skills / ability / flexibility vs his / her stubbornness..

i take it your production director isn't that tech savvy...

i'm wondering too how you presented the technical aspect of your production...did you really think that 16/7 vdsl or two bonded dsl connections would suffice?


clarknova

join:2010-02-23
Fairview, AB
kudos:5
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·link2voip

reply to Jurjen
x86 is a broad category that includes most Intel, AMD and VIA CPUs, so your server is likely supported as well.

You can run pfsense with a single NIC if you set up vlans. I have done a few builds this way, including one with 15 virtual interfaces.

Good job on trying Tomato dual WAN. I love Tomato, although I've never tried the dual WAN build, so I have never recommended it.

In your situation I would recommend that you run a squid proxy to use caching to soften the blow to your internet connection. This can be installed as a packaged on pfsense, or on a separate box if you go with Tomato. I don't know how cacheable facebook is, but with all your uses going to the same site, squid should be able to cache at least some of the graphics.

Next thing you might want to think about is some traffic shaping and prioritizing. Considering all your users will be doing more or less the same thing, a simple setup that prioritizes ACK packets and limits each user to a small share of the bandwidth is probably a good idea.

Lastly, don't worry too much about the naysayers on this board. Many of them are consultants, and they are wise to advise their clients to overplan, but in doing so they sometimes neglect to help the DIYers and the desperate. As a small neighbourhood ISP, I can assure you that oversubscription is a necessary and surprisingly effective bandwidth usage model. Cramming 130 users onto a wireless network with modest bandwidth isn't a walk in the park, but with a bit of ingenuity it doesn't have to be your funeral.
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