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steelman

join:2012-10-29
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reply to Davesnothere

Re: DDoS Attacks, Is Any VoIPP Less Susceptable ?

My business couldn't wait for callcentric issue to be solved.
Additionally, there's no proof that these issues won't reoccur. However, that helped me in making an important decision. Running my own SIP server. Since many of my colleagues are around the world, I can freely call internally, and register with ipkall for free DIDs, so that people from other networks can call me. I made my service publicly accessible too

»www.freelycall.com/
Snapped 2012-11-27 09:54:40
so hopefully more users will find it useful in the future.

PX Eliezer70
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said by steelman:

Additionally, there's no proof that these issues won't reoccur....

....Since many of my colleagues are around the world, I can freely call internally, and register with ipkall for free DIDs, so that people from other networks can call me....

I made my service publicly accessible too....

So rather than trust CallCentric or another publicly licensed and registered company, the public should trust the combination of [anonymous you] and [IPKall]?!

And your "freely call" service is certainly far from free for PSTN calls, I see that you charge $ 20 a month for US/Canadian calling.
»www.freelycall.com/products-page···limited/

said by steelman:

Additionally, there's no proof that these issues won't reoccur....

OK. What is YOUR backup plan and SLA?

PX Eliezer70
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reply to steelman
You [do] have a pretty website though, and it is dated 2012.

That will impress some people.

steelman

join:2012-10-29
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reply to PX Eliezer70
The difference between what I'm proposing and a publicly licensed and registered company is that the service is still young and I can shape it based on the feedback I will get. I do come from a software and telco background, and have been using and learning VoIP for some good time. Yes, no SLAs yet, but for instance, I'm developing a redundant solution hosted in 5 countries around the globe (currently targetting: Turkey, Germany, UK, US, Canada), so that if a hurricane hits the US coast or power breaks down in Vancouver data center, the service would not go down, taking advantage of DNS SRV, and a DNS server which I fully control.
Regarding the free part, please treat 'freely' as in freedom of use, not as in free beer, except for free internal calls, DIDs and conferencing. I do need though funds to be able to terminate calls around the world, and I believe that when doing something worthy, money is not the main issue. People who just want a free service can use google voice, which works pretty nice, but when you want to have more features (built-in faxing, byod, resellers, n-way conferencing, custom codecs, cheap rates, phone support, worldwide DIDs), you would be OK to pay for it.

steelman

join:2012-10-29
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reply to PX Eliezer70
There's plans to make the website »www.freelycall.com/ much better, but for now, a stable and redundant solution is the priority. I'm willing to give a month worth of try-outs for the US unlimited plan for early bird subscribers in return of feedback


pquesinb

join:2009-04-20
Severn, MD
Interesting.... not a bad-looking website but it's kind of slow so you might want to look into a faster web host.

I'm curious, what platform are you using for call routing? An open-source offering like Asterisk or FreeSWITCH or are you using a commercial offering? How long have you been using/working with this platform?

I can sort of relate to where you are, my background is similar although it includes hardware design (not particularly relevant to providing VoIP services) in addition to software (mostly firmware) development, a lot of network/IT and telecom. I started using VoIP in my own business for a few years and then began hosting business telephone services for a few select clients. I've been providing services for others for about a year now and am still learning. I've learned a lot in the past year, so much in fact that I see certain things much more clearly than before. One of the things that has become incredibly clear as a result of this knowledge that I have attained is that I still have much to learn.

I can tell you that hosting for other businesses is far different than providing service for your own business, especially when it comes to serving remote endpoints behind NAT firewalls and attempting to avoid proxying/"tromboning" media across your network by sending it directly between endpoints and/or between endpoints and the PSTN. There are numerous other goodies in store, as well.

As a result, I've held off launching any sort of website offering VoIP services so far, at least until I feel worthy. When I feel worthy, I'll probably have my head examined.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know where you are experience-wise and in launching your service and I'm certainly not trying to discourage you, I just thought I'd share my experience so far. I wish you luck.

It's not as easy as it looks.

- Phil

nonymous
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reply to steelman
said by steelman:

Regarding the free part, please treat 'freely' as in freedom of use, not as in free beer,

Too late my limited mind has already seen only the free beer in the sentence. So which voip providers are giving away free beer? Plus what brands and quality of beer?

PX Eliezer70
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said by nonymous:

So which voip providers are giving away free beer? Plus what brands and quality of beer?

Local-Foam has the cheap stuff, a penny an ounce.

Magic-AppleJack has a low annual rate for all the moonshine you can drink, and worth every penny you've paid.

Fall With Us has a very potent product at a good price, but is not for beginners.

"Amtel" POTS has Amstel in a pot.

Voip.MS has Canadian Molson (the MS is for MolSon).

Future Two (often called F2) has "Dos Equis".

CallCentric of course has Clamato Chelada.


Davesnothere
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So based on all of THAT :

DoS is when the waiter cuts you off after you've had enough to drink.

And DDoS is when ALL of the waiters in ALL of the bars won't serve you anymore that night, because they tweet each other about who's been cut off.