Topic 'Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power' in forum 'Home Improvement' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759423 en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:06:38 EDT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:06:38 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27765491 said by Bob:

Yes, it's much more efficient to have the computers make the mistakes. :D

Computers don't make mistakes. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27765491 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:01:17 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27764269 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27764269 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:52:59 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27764083
But at the end of the month instead of an estimated bill they simply take the beginning and end of the month to calculate your bill, just like an ordinary meter reader would do.

The difference is that there are no humans to make mistakes writing down numbers , brave hostile environments, and waste fuel and time to read a meter.
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I think Tuesdays must be laundry day, never payed attention.

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But in the end - this is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill - the actual readings WILL eventually catchup.

The ones I feel sorry for are those who don't have a home any more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27762023 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:44:12 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761717 said by pike:

said by fifty nine:

Gotta say, that this is where smart meters have a definite advantage. There is no need for estimated billing with smart meters. You pay exactly for what you use.

Serious question: are you trolling?

You pay for exactly what you use whether you have a smart meter or an analog one. No customers were overbilled nor are they being asked to pay for usage they didn't consume. This is a link-bait non-story. Estimated meter readings are quite common and are acceptable under utility commission regulations.

Not sure where the advantage is: if the power was out the day the billing system polled the meter for usage, customers would have received an estimated bill. Likewise if the meter communication network was damaged in the storm or experiencing interference or other transient problems. No system is perfect.

Not a troll post, but I do like dispelling the ignorance around smart meters. Their benefits far outweigh any perceived disadvantages.

Actually if the system was out for only a couple of days, the system would take the last and current reading. That's how it is for us. Even with normal operation, our meter readings may skip a day or two. At the end of the month they just take the difference between start and end and bill appropriately.

I have never gotten an estimated bill from our cooperative. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761717 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:21:03 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761688 said by DataDoc:

said by fifty nine:

I'm guessing that the NY Daily News paywalls for certain ISPs.

"This content is exclusive for Newsday digital access and 7-day home delivery subscribers and Optimum Online® customers."

I am neither. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761688 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:14:23 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761516 said by ropeguru:

Just the typical whining from that area about nothing.

Dog whistle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761516 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:26:13 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761042 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27761042 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:03:35 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760819 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760819 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:02:06 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760652 said by fifty nine:

I'm guessing that the NY Daily News paywalls for certain ISPs.

"This content is exclusive for Newsday digital access and 7-day home delivery subscribers and Optimum Online® customers."
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Four more years of cronyism, payoffs, bad energy policy and 60's radicals being in charge. Thanks for ruining our country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760652 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:13:15 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760616 said by microphone:

While it is true that no one will ultimately be over billed in the end, it is very disconcerting to be in the dark for a week or more and than receive an excessive electric bill on top of it. I would be really pissed off.


It wouldn't surprise me if some aggressive lawyer out on L.I. starts shaking trees and kicking tires.

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The linked story is really a non-story. No one is going to pay for power they didn't use.

EDIT: Some of these people may be on an equal payment plan. So of course they should pay the normal amount every month. That's exactly what they signed up for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760280 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:46:08 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760267 said by fifty nine:

Gotta say, that this is where smart meters have a definite advantage. There is no need for estimated billing with smart meters. You pay exactly for what you use.

Serious question: are you trolling?

You pay for exactly what you use whether you have a smart meter or an analog one. No customers were overbilled nor are they being asked to pay for usage they didn't consume. This is a link-bait non-story. Estimated meter readings are quite common and are acceptable under utility commission regulations.

Not sure where the advantage is: if the power was out the day the billing system polled the meter for usage, customers would have received an estimated bill. Likewise if the meter communication network was damaged in the storm or experiencing interference or other transient problems. No system is perfect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27760267 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:40:21 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759850 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759850 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:36:59 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759766 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759766 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:54:06 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759732 Article Summary: Power company reassigned all employees to help with recovery effort, so meters didn't get read. Estimate bills were generated even for customers that had power outage. Customers upset. Customers can call and provide actual usage and get bill adjusted. Or wait until next actual meter reading. The power company is also suspending bills for people with severe damage and suspending 1.5% late fee.

People bitch about everything. And are stupid if they can't read their utility bills and just call their power company. A month or two ago I had a gas bill that was obscenely high. It was more gas usage in one month than I had used in the previous 8 combined with the mild winter and above average spring and summer. Discovered the meter reader misread one of the dials. Called, talked with a rep who agreed that the misread was pretty obvious and took my revised reading. Had a new bill in a few days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759732 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:36:48 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759704 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759704 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:27:12 EDT Re: LIPA customers billed for days without power http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759631 Nancy...

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Gotta say, that this is where smart meters have a definite advantage. There is no need for estimated billing with smart meters. You pay exactly for what you use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/LIPA-customers-billed-for-days-without-power-27759423 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:38:01 EDT