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robman50

join:2010-12-14

[Parts Check] Looking for a good video card.

I am looking for a decent video card that is close to 'high end' but is not so crazy expensive. So maybe 'mid-high end?'
All of my past cards are ATI (X800 XL, HD 4850) and I did have an old nVidia GeForce 4 MX4000 AGP card (which has been tossed). Is there a major difference between AMD and nVidia? I personally do not care which brand of GPU I will get. I know I will not go with SLI or CrossFire.
I would spend up to $200 (maybe I can find a good sale)?
My motherboard can do PCI Express 2.0 and it has support for 3.0. The power supply might need to be upgraded because it's only a 450 watt unit.

So yeah, what PSU, and also what video card would be cheap enough but would last me a few years?
My current Intel HD 3000 is ok but I am sure there is better.



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You can do much better than what you have for $200. Do you have any gaming or performance requirements? This would help us in figuring a price/performance ratio
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robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to robman50

Well actually I do not really own much games and all the games that I own are for Core 2 Duo/Quad systems.
The most recent game I do play every day is that Star Trek Online (I am using the free to play version).
Here are the system requirements that are needed for that game:
»sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=560461
They have upgraded and improved the graphics so much that it is starting to become very choppy.
If I get a better GPU I probably would go buy more games.
If I am not playing games I am most likely encoding videos. I do edit audio/video and even pictures from time to time.



aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
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I just bought a HD7770 based card for $100 after MIR -- that's basically the most your current PS could handle. I expect that based on my needs, that card should be good for at least 3 - 4 years. YMMV.
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robman50

join:2010-12-14

I would upgrade my PS soon or a later because my Core i5 system is running in my old P4 box.
When I made the system I ran out of money so I had to hold off on the PSU and GPU.


robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to aurgathor

said by aurgathor:

I just bought a HD7770 based card for $100 after MIR -- that's basically the most your current PS could handle. I expect that based on my needs, that card should be good for at least 3 - 4 years. YMMV.

Whats the nVidia version of the HD7770?

n_w95482
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Ukiah, CA

The GTX 560 SE seems to be close to the HD 7770, although it uses more power. I'm assuming the $200 you mentioned would include a new power supply if needed?
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robman50

join:2010-12-14

yeah $200 tops for a video card and what ever for a power supply.


robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to n_w95482

said by n_w95482:

The GTX 560 SE seems to be close to the HD 7770, although it uses more power. I'm assuming the $200 you mentioned would include a new power supply if needed?

So you have the 560 and the 650. Is the GTX 650 better than the 560?

robman50

join:2010-12-14

I can get a EVGA GT640 for $120. Is that a good card?
»www.evga.com/products/pdf/02G-P4-2643.pdf


BlitzenZeus
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Tomshardware.com has a great link for gamimg gpu performance based on newegg pricing. Nvidia has some good cards for the price, but amd pretty much is the leader here currently. I do favor nvidia over amd personally, but for the right performance w/o annoying driver issues I would buy an amd gpu. The 77xx 78xx are hard to overlook.
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n_w95482
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reply to robman50

For that price, no. It gets spanked by the Radeon HD 7750 pretty easily, which is a cheaper card.

The 560 is better than the 650.

Here's the article that BlitzenZeus See Profile mentioned, I check there frequently as it's updated every month.
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robman50

join:2010-12-14

I am having a hard time trying to find the 560 se in stores. So it looks like the only choice is the GTX 650 ti vs HD 7770.
»www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=680
»www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gam···7-3.html

any ideas?


BlitzenZeus
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If you want to buy nvidia get the 650 ti, but the 7850 isn't much more for the price if you want to pay just a little more. A friend has had a 6850 for a while, and it's been a great card, 7 just notes it's the next series of cards. He doesn't need to upgrade his gpu at all yet.
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Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent out necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G.



Krisnatharok
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reply to aurgathor

said by aurgathor:

I just bought a HD7770 based card for $100 after MIR -- that's basically the most your current PS could handle. I expect that based on my needs, that card should be good for at least 3 - 4 years. YMMV.

What? He could easily run a 7870 without breaking a sweat.
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aurgathor

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said by Krisnatharok:

said by aurgathor:

I just bought a HD7770 based card for $100 after MIR -- that's basically the most your current PS could handle. I expect that based on my needs, that card should be good for at least 3 - 4 years. YMMV.

What? He could easily run a 7870 without breaking a sweat.

7870s require a 500W power supply (I know they can run on less, but 500W is the spec)
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Krisnatharok
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said by aurgathor:

said by Krisnatharok:

said by aurgathor:

I just bought a HD7770 based card for $100 after MIR -- that's basically the most your current PS could handle. I expect that based on my needs, that card should be good for at least 3 - 4 years. YMMV.

What? He could easily run a 7870 without breaking a sweat.

7870s require a 500W power supply (I know they can run on less, but 500W is the spec)

That's pretty laughable, and not necessary. They only say that because there are crap PSUs out there that OEMs buy that aren't meant to be taxed.

My rig pulls down 120w at the wall when gaming, and I am running far more shit than a little rig like this will--i7-920 @ 3GHz, 24GB ram, 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Radeon 7970 powering two monitors (one a 27" 1440p) + peripherals (like phones charging).
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I think advising and running at specs is just playing it safe - the money spent is not ours - so if there is issues and it doesn't work or warranty or any other issues, playing it safe is better....


robman50

join:2010-12-14
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I know a new power supply is going to happen so or a later.



Krisnatharok
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My point is that you don't need to go out and buy a super-big one. If you are going to run two 7870s, shoot for something in the 550w range, but please don't be the person who goes out and buys a 750/850/1000w PSU to run low-end cards. You end up wasting a lot of electricity as the PSU is not designed to run efficiently on such a low load.
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$200?

$50 Corsair Builder Series CX 500 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX500)
»www.amazon.com/dp/B0092ML0MY/ref···_SC_dp_1

$144 Price after rebate: $123.99 EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti SSC 1024MB GDDR5 128bit, Dual Dual-Link DVI, Mini HDMI, Graphics Card (01G-P4-3652-KR) Graphics Cards 01G-P4-3652-KR
»www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Dual···60+ti%22