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Re: Insurance Money

Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:07:56 EDT

rradina posted : Why in the world would they be paying that much? I remember reading about a recent rush by otherwise healthy companies to issue tons of debt. Reason? Because it's practically free.

»moneymorning.com/2011/05/30/reco···e-bonds/

I don't think WE should be paying Verizon to rebuild anything that isn't regulated. If it's regulated, maybe, since we limit the profit they can make. However, Verizon has also been accused of "fixing" their books by pushing all kinds of expense into their regulated area to artificially inflate rates. This likewise deflates the true operating expenses of their non-regulated LOBs where it doesn't matter how much profit they show (other than corporate taxes).

»www.newnetworks.com/Verizonshellgame2012.pdf

Re: Insurance Money

Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:11:50 EDT

Maggs posted : If the fed govt credit guarantees the loans, Verizon can borrow money at next to nothing. Just look at their capital lease obligations paying 6.8% in interest in 2010.

Look at the fact there's $5,902 million outstanding debt due in 2012. Imagine borrowing $5,902 million at 6.125%, and you thought home mortgages were expensive.

»www22.verizon.com/investor/app_r···e09.html
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Re: Insurance Money

Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:30:07 EDT

rradina posted : The resulting electrification is a permitted but regulated monopoly. It was also loans, not welfare.

Are we saying Verizon is only getting low interest federal loans? Regarding low interest, credit is so cheap what is "low interest"? To be worth it, it almost has to be NO INTEREST. Since the government will sell bonds to acquire the money, that's more public debt and it will cost all of us.

Re: Insurance Money

Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:25:37 EDT

Maggs posted :

said by rradina:

Great! More corporate welfare.

Corporate welfare, electrified MO, so don't knock it. Just check out the Rural Electrification Act, »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Elec···tion_Act
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Re: Insurance Money

Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:10:35 EDT

rradina posted : Great! More corporate welfare.

Re: Insurance Money

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:00:38 EDT

Maggs posted : They probably have stop loss coverage, with insurance covering any damage above X amount of dollars. FEMA will kick in some cash too. Great time to be in Verizon in the Northeast right now, you'll get more hours then you can shake a stick at and if you're married your wife will be able to buy some nice sparkly diamonds with your paycheck.
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Re: Insurance Money

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:58:05 EDT

Maggs posted : They most likely are self insured with a stop loss policy covered by other insurance. They will most likely hit the stop loss cap with all the Sandy damage with FEMA giving them the rest.
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Re: Insurance Money

Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:45:17 EDT

morbo posted :

said by CXM_Splicer:

Management tells us it is coming from FEMA but I can't find any documentation to back that up

That's disturbing. Is FEMA really involved with helping one of the largest companies in this country re-build?

Re: Insurance Money

Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:30:30 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted : I can honestly say in my 20 years in the company (under various names) I have never heard anyone mention 'plant' insurance. Their motor vehicle fleet is self insured and they also have a self-insured medical plan that many employees use. I have been looking into this very question for almost a week now and can't find an answer to 'where is the money coming from?' Management tells us it is coming from FEMA but I can't find any documentation to back that up
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Insurance Money

Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:15:46 EDT

rradina posted : I keep reading posts referencing the fixes (however they do it -- fiber or more copper) are funded by insurance money. Does anyone have the skinny on how Verizon insured this? A lot of big companies self-insure. They might have a "stop loss" policy (i..e anything beyond $1M or $1B), but are we sure this is covered by insurance? If so, can someone point me to information from Verizon so I can educate myself? Thanks.