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rolfp

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Re: Linux Foundation UEFI Secure Boot Key Delays Explained

The links you apparently pulled out of your hat are not obvious evidence of some intrinsic problem with uefi. In general, it's evidence of new technology taking time to understand and those who misidentify uefi as their problem; it's evidence of superficiality and empty rhetoric. I hear the various new editions of Windows all have many complainers and decriers of what they don't understand, have not yet learned, many complaints of those who are incapable of listening and/or are too lazy to try.

Man, your serial smoke and mirror poseur tirades have long ago grown quite old. FOSS doesn't need that kind of shit. Nobody does.

TuxRaiderPen

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said by rolfp:
The links you apparently pulled out of your hat are not obvious evidence of some intrinsic problem with

No they were not pulled out of my hat... Till recently that forum didn't even exist...

There was a very extensive thread on a UEFI install of 12.04 which had all kinds of issues... there now is that subforum.

said by rolfp:
Man, your serial smoke and mirror poseur tirades have long ago grown quite old. FOSS doesn't need that kind of shit. Nobody does.


Your entitled to your opinion. I vehemently feel you and others are seriously ignoring the issues that RESTRCITED BOOT and/or SECURE boot poses (CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU INFERERS!???!) to Linux over all.

UEFI is a solution ala waycrap ... Need to improve on the BIOS to work with new hardware, chipsets, etc. great, but UEFI is above and beyond that.. 90% of the crap in UEFI is that crap, oooey gui interfaces, snapshots of screens, embedded players, embedded software??? REALLY!???!

Plain and simple RESTRICTED BOOT and/or SECURE BOOT are meant for one thing as implemented and released. Linux lockout.

If you don't want to to agree with that and bury your head in the sand as ms shovels in the sand and water, go right ahead. I am not! ms is evil, period. This is an anti competivie move, pure and simple, and the hugh and cry needs to be raised.. You don't care for my methods and I don't care for the solutions of most distros or most of the laisez faire attitude over it here. Maybe when this was some dream of an idea it was a good idea.. as IMPLEMENTED AND RELEASED it has ONE AND ONLY ONE GOAL.

Linux LOCKOUT ! ! Period.

MS has shown it already... most here just continue to blow it off.. YOUR LOSS.

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rolfp

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You've got no idea what uefi is.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Ex···nterface

The interface defined by the EFI specification includes data tables that contain platform information, and boot and runtime services that are available to the OS loader and OS. UEFI firmware provides several technical advantages over a traditional BIOS system:[11]

Ability to boot from large disks (over 2 TiB) with a GUID Partition Table, GPT.[12][13]
CPU-independent architecture[12]
CPU-independent drivers[12]
Flexible pre-OS environment, including network capability
Modular design
[..]
GNU/Linux supports GPT. Linux should be built with option "CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION" enabled.[20] GNU Parted is required to manage disks and partitions, as fdisk does not support GPT.


dave
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said by TuxRaiderPen:

90% of the crap in UEFI is that crap, oooey gui interfaces, snapshots of screens, embedded players, embedded software??? REALLY!???!

It is not mandatory for any firmware author to include such features.

And contrariwise, the old BIOS doesn't stop the likes of Dell from supplying their laptops with stupid embedded players (it's actually a reserved partition on the disk, with a dedicated button to boot from it) -- the point is that people that want to ship crap will find a way to ship crap; we might as well have standard crap.

Plain and simple RESTRICTED BOOT and/or SECURE BOOT are meant for one thing as implemented and released. Linux lockout.

Still can't get your head round the difference between UEFI and Secure Boot, I see. Or at least, still can't focus your ranting.

The presence or absence of GUI capability in firmware is independent of the presence or absence of Secure Boot support. So, while you continue to drift from one to another, we'll continue to not take you seriously.


EUS
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reply to TuxRaiderPen
I don't get your rant about UEFI GUI, BIOS is already GUI.


Steve
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said by EUS:

I don't get your rant about UEFI GUI, BIOS is already GUI.

It's a plot from Microsoft!


BBBanditRuR
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said by EUS:

I don't get your rant about UEFI GUI, BIOS is already GUI.

The BIOS font is probably Wingdings.

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said by EUS:

BIOS is already GUI.

Everything still has VGA-compatibility, and VGA is a bitmapped display, so I suppose a sufficiently determined BIOS can draw whatever it wants. As witness the Intel logo on any Intel motherboard.

»embedded.communities.intel.com/c···uefi-gui