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gjrhine

join:2001-12-12
Pawleys Island, SC
reply to gjrhine

Re: Newzbin2 Closed Up

I think what I miss most is it told me all new posts since last log on in each category. I could just browse until the end of the highlighting.
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90115534
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reply to gjrhine

It has begun!

Newsgroup header searching back in action.



elwoodblues
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reply to gjrhine

I used Newzbin1 for years topping up at their half price Christmas deal. I never reupped with Newzbin2, but it was handy for finding things that didn't have the same title.

Oh well, another one bites the dust.


Badonkadonk
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reply to 90115534

said by 90115534:

It has begun!

Newsgroup header searching back in action.

You may not be far from the truth. As I was looking around at things, I happened to be poking around in the forums at Matrix. I noticed someone there had mentioned that Hunger Games is not allowed to be indexed at the Matrix.

I used that movie then to see how other sites do with it. Surprisingly, binsearch was terrible. I had better luck with a couple of others, such as nzb.su and nzbs.org.

For $10/10 years or whatever timeframe, the Matrix is fine. But the other two are far better.
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Brywalker

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reply to gjrhine

Beyond broken hearted here. Been using newzbin forever and a day and I just don't feel that matrix is up to snuff. Not to mention sickbeard and newzbin were made for each other.

Bookmarks worked flawlessly to.

It's a very sad day here. Hoping something decent pops up or matrix gets a little better.


posthaste

join:2001-05-20
Champaign, IL
reply to gjrhine

I used Newzbin, and then the resurrected Newzbin2, for years. In all that time, I had created dozens of Saved Searches that would automatically send e-mails for everything I was interested in.

Poof! Gone now.

I'll never be able to recreate that functionality at any other NZB site. Sad day.

Nzbmatrix is OK, but I'm looking to check out DOGnzb if anyone can PM me with an invite.
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pb5k
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reply to gjrhine

It will definitely be sorely missed; there is, IMO, no 100% replacement for Newzbin2. Raw and conditioned search operating alongside user submitted NZBs, watchdog, and the ever-useful post comments (which dropped greatly in volume after the Newzbin1 closing), so many excellent features.
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zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
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reply to gjrhine

I barely used newzbin2. I liked NZBMatrix better. For raw searches there's a free website out there that does a great job.

newzbin2 wasn't really worth the price anymore, when you've got others than only charge 10 bones/lifetime and a pretty good free raw search out there.


posthaste

join:2001-05-20
Champaign, IL
reply to gjrhine

I was complacent and relied too heavily on Newzbin2. Now, when looking for alternatives, I'm stung by running into all these private invite-only NZB sites.

Perhaps NZBs(dot)ORG and dognzb are good, but I can't get in.

Damn.
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Badonkadonk
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reply to zod5000

said by zod5000:

I barely used newzbin2. I liked NZBMatrix better. For raw searches there's a free website out there that does a great job.

newzbin2 wasn't really worth the price anymore, when you've got others than only charge 10 bones/lifetime and a pretty good free raw search out there.

What's the pretty good raw search? I used to think Binsearch was good, but it really isn't.

As for Matrix, you get what you pay for. A DMCA'd to death semi-POS.
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Stem Bolt
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said by Badonkadonk:

As for Matrix, you get what you pay for. A DMCA'd to death semi-POS.

I'm not the biggest fan of Nzbmatrix but the list of stuff they ban is relatively small in the scheme of things. The ban on "earn cash" scams is understandable. If your into adult content, Nzbmatrix has a separate site dedicated to it. I would never trust a pirated copy of an operating system anyway.

Banned NZB List
- All Microsoft Windows Operating Systems
- All Microsoft Office Applications
- All Adult Content
- Any books by Tianna Xander or Extasy Books
- Any "Earn cash, get x free" spam/scam postings
- ALL X Men Origins Wolverine Movie Releases (Inc Fixes etc)
- All Anne Perry Audio Books
- All Edward Elgar Content
- Wowza Media Server
- A Serbian Film (»www.imdb.com/title/tt1273235/)
- The Hunger Games (Lionsgate)
- The Human Centipede
- Excision (2012)

Looks like Newzbin2 had it's share of DMCA removals though.
quote:
The tragedy is this: unlike Newzbin1 we are 100% DMCA compliant. We have acted on every DMCA notice we received without stalling or playing games: if there was a DMCA complaint the report was gone. Period.

komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to gjrhine

I saw this and figured you were mistaken since I was just on that site yesterday.

I'm pretty sad that Newzbin2 closed. People don't realize it but Newzbin2 was the most complete NZB site out there. The archive of NZBs was far more complete than Nzbmatrix which is almost all user contributed NZBs.

I had this discussion in a previous thread and I presented evidence that NZBmatrix was pretty incomplete.

Even as a longtime Nzbmatrix user I regret that Newzbin2 closed because when I couldn't find something on Nzbmatrix, Newzbin2 was often able to find it for me.

I would have gladly donated or paid a higher rate if I knew they were having this kind of trouble. I am glad that my credit had only just expired though, so I don't feel like I lost anything.

Hopefully somebody else can pop up and use the Newzbin auto-indexing system because it was really great.



Stem Bolt
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said by komal:

Nzbmatrix which is almost all user contributed NZBs.

This is still not true. The majority of NZB's are auto indexed. A moderator on Nzbmatrix said about 90% automated and 10% user contributed.

komal

join:2003-02-16

said by Stem Bolt:

said by komal:

Nzbmatrix which is almost all user contributed NZBs.

This is still not true. The majority of NZB's are auto indexed. A moderator on Nzbmatrix said about 90% automated and 10% user contributed.

Instead of making the same whiny post with no evidence whatsoever, just post in the old thread instead of taking this one off-topic.
»Is nzbmatrix.com worth it?
And if you could have proven me wrong, you would have, but you failed to do so.
Repeating something doesn't make it true. Use your brain instead of parroting Nzbmatrix moderators.

komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to elwoodblues

said by elwoodblues:

I used Newzbin1 for years topping up at their half price Christmas deal. I never reupped with Newzbin2, but it was handy for finding things that didn't have the same title.

Oh well, another one bites the dust.

Yeah I was waiting for the Christmas deal to top-up. I'm a bit sad that I also lost my saved searches, would have liked to keep those.

They should have just given 1-2 days of warning instead of an immediate shutdown.


Stem Bolt
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reply to komal

said by komal:

Instead of making the same whiny post with no evidence whatsoever, just post in the old thread instead of taking this one off-topic.
»Is nzbmatrix.com worth it?
And if you could have proven me wrong, you would have, but you failed to do so.
Repeating something doesn't make it true. Use your brain instead of parroting Nzbmatrix moderators.

You brought it up in this thread again, not me, "Nzbmatrix which is almost all user contributed NZBs" is your quote. I don't recall you providing any evidence that the majority of Nzbmatrix NZB's are user contributed. How would you go about proving/disproving that the majority of NZB's are user contributed? Other then getting the info from a MOD that helps run the site itself. They would know how their site works. The "Repeating something doesn't make it true" also applies to you.

bzorglub

join:2012-11-30
reply to gjrhine

Hello,
you can try : »findnzb.net/
Cheers.


Badonkadonk
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reply to Stem Bolt

said by Stem Bolt:

said by Badonkadonk:

As for Matrix, you get what you pay for. A DMCA'd to death semi-POS.

Looks like Newzbin2 had it's share of DMCA removals though.

I agree. But having the raw feeds right there helped to somewhat overcome the issue.
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komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to Stem Bolt

said by Stem Bolt:

said by komal:

Instead of making the same whiny post with no evidence whatsoever, just post in the old thread instead of taking this one off-topic.
»Is nzbmatrix.com worth it?
And if you could have proven me wrong, you would have, but you failed to do so.
Repeating something doesn't make it true. Use your brain instead of parroting Nzbmatrix moderators.

You brought it up in this thread again, not me, "Nzbmatrix which is almost all user contributed NZBs" is your quote. I don't recall you providing any evidence that the majority of Nzbmatrix NZB's are user contributed. How would you go about proving/disproving that the majority of NZB's are user contributed? Other then getting the info from a MOD that helps run the site itself. They would know how their site works. The "Repeating something doesn't make it true" also applies to you.

If you don't recall me posting any proof then go check the thread I linked to because that's where it was and you refused to address it when I posted it.
Like i said, try using your brain instead of repeating something somebody else said.
Or you could just accept anything you are told, I guess that saves you from having to think for yourself.
"Hey guys, somebody on the internet told me this so it must be true"

Badonkadonk
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Stem Bolt
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reply to komal

said by komal:

If you don't recall me posting any proof then go check the thread I linked to because that's where it was and you refused to address it when I posted it.
Like i said, try using your brain instead of repeating something somebody else said.
Or you could just accept anything you are told, I guess that saves you from having to think for yourself.
"Hey guys, somebody on the internet told me this so it must be true"

I did check the thread and there was nothing you said that disproved (besides you just claiming it) that the majority of NZB's on Matrix are auto indexed by bots. How can I address something that never existed?

I don't understand why your are attacking me so personally in all this. In none of my post have I attacked you personally only your claim about auto indexing vs user contributed percentage.

The guys who said this are MODS and the admin who help run the site. Not some anonymous internet users.

The first 2-3 posts in the Matrix thread are slightly off topic but they start talking about the bots. One user posted that users were the only source of NZB's and no bots involved. Then in later posts he is corrected and it's stated by 2 MODS that it's both bots and users. The MOD's said around 90% were from bots the rest users. I don't see a real reason they would need to lie about it.

»nzbmatrix.com/forums.php?action=···0#550100

komal

join:2003-02-16

said by Stem Bolt:

said by komal:

If you don't recall me posting any proof then go check the thread I linked to because that's where it was and you refused to address it when I posted it.
Like i said, try using your brain instead of repeating something somebody else said.
Or you could just accept anything you are told, I guess that saves you from having to think for yourself.
"Hey guys, somebody on the internet told me this so it must be true"

I did check the thread and there was nothing you said that disproved (besides you just claiming it) that the majority of NZB's on Matrix are auto indexed by bots. How can I address something that never existed?

I don't understand why your are attacking me so personally in all this. In none of my post have I attacked you personally only your claim about auto indexing vs user contributed percentage.

The guys who said this are MODS and the admin who help run the site. Not some anonymous internet users.

The first 2-3 posts in the Matrix thread are slightly off topic but they start talking about the bots. One user posted that users were the only source of NZB's and no bots involved. Then in later posts he is corrected and it's stated by 2 MODS that it's both bots and users. The MOD's said around 90% were from bots the rest users. I don't see a real reason they would need to lie about it.

»nzbmatrix.com/forums.php?action=···0#550100

I pointed out obvious differences in search results between engines. You refused to address that then and still do now. Its why you won't go back to the old thread but would rather start it again because you know you can't prove your point.
All you can do is keep pointing to some quote on a forum which proves nothing.
Its truly laughable that you have no critical thinking skills and will just accept anything somebody says online.

If you want to tell me I'm wrong, do more than point to what somebody told you.

Otherwise you can just keep pretending that I never posted any searches/proof of my claims and keep whining about how you were told this and it must be true.

Newzbin was by far the most complete search engine before it went down.

In any case, I'm tired of responding to you. It becomes rather pointless when you have the exact same response each time and just keep repeating yourself.

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument but you can keep repeating it if that's all you want to do.


swintec
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said by komal:

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument...

I dont care one way or the other, but you said several times in the previous thread:

said by komal:

If Nzbmatrix is automated, the automation sucks.

said by komal:

Either the Nzbmatrix people are exaggerating/lying or their automation is a failure.

said by komal:

doesn't matter what the forums say, the fact is you can simply prove that the automation is either a lie or a failure.

Were you 100% sure yourself, previously?

Do they have automation and it is a poor implementation of it or is automation completely non-existent? I dont think simple search results between the two services is a definitive answer one way or the other. Reminds me of the days when search engines popped up all over the place. Some were obviously much better than others. All were automated, results were given differently, sites didnt always get indexed as they should. possibly the case here?

I think the disagreement here is that we have a staff member of the Matrix saying one thing and a user raising legitimate claims with just simple search results between two indexers, which again, doesnt necessarily prove anything 100%..just that the matrix is lacking in some form.
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teh
Gekke Kraai
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reply to gjrhine

Didn't realised they closed up

Even though I have NZBMatrix accounts. I find it easier to just use www.binsearch.info
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Badonkadonk
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But in my recent research I see that binsearch misses stuff. Headers are going to be the alternative to Newsbin for raw searches, if accuracy and full listing is important.
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teh
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I did not realised that. I haven't used nntp as much as before.
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komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to swintec

said by swintec:

said by komal:

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument...

I dont care one way or the other, but you said several times in the previous thread:

said by komal:

If Nzbmatrix is automated, the automation sucks.

said by komal:

Either the Nzbmatrix people are exaggerating/lying or their automation is a failure.

said by komal:

doesn't matter what the forums say, the fact is you can simply prove that the automation is either a lie or a failure.

Were you 100% sure yourself, previously?

Do they have automation and it is a poor implementation of it or is automation completely non-existent? I dont think simple search results between the two services is a definitive answer one way or the other. Reminds me of the days when search engines popped up all over the place. Some were obviously much better than others. All were automated, results were given differently, sites didnt always get indexed as they should. possibly the case here?

I think the disagreement here is that we have a staff member of the Matrix saying one thing and a user raising legitimate claims with just simple search results between two indexers, which again, doesnt necessarily prove anything 100%..just that the matrix is lacking in some form.

It is pretty easy to prove.

Look at some of the popular newsgroups that Nzbmatrix definitely does focus on, like alt.binaries.multimedia, find some shows that are popular that Nzbmatrix was actively archiving at some point, something on HBO most likely. Then do the search on a raw search engine and you'll find that the same show is still being posted to the same group, whether its individual episodes, DVDs, reups etc. etc.

Now look at Nzbmatrix, it often misses all those episodes.

Nzbmatrix indexes more heavily when a show is airing and thus when it is popular and users are paying attention. At that point, users will be more actively adding NZBs to the site. When the show dies down, either hiatus or having ended, it stops being actively added to Nzbmatrix.

My Sopranos example is still valid. Episodes are still being posted all the time on Usenet, but Nzbmatrix doesn't grab any of them even if they are posted to popular groups. Either they turn their automation off or it doesn't exist.

komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to teh

said by teh:

Didn't realised they closed up

Even though I have NZBMatrix accounts. I find it easier to just use www.binsearch.info

Binsearch is pretty good, but Newzbin gave easy access to the NFOs of every release which was a nice feature, given how complete they are in terms of their index, it was easier to decide which rip to download that way.

komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to Badonkadonk

said by Badonkadonk:

But in my recent research I see that binsearch misses stuff. Headers are going to be the alternative to Newsbin for raw searches, if accuracy and full listing is important.

Never noticed that.

What do you use to search headers? A site or a client?

Badonkadonk
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Client. Mostly Newsbin and Grabit.