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Stem Bolt
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reply to komal

Re: Newzbin2 Closed Up

said by komal:

If you don't recall me posting any proof then go check the thread I linked to because that's where it was and you refused to address it when I posted it.
Like i said, try using your brain instead of repeating something somebody else said.
Or you could just accept anything you are told, I guess that saves you from having to think for yourself.
"Hey guys, somebody on the internet told me this so it must be true"

I did check the thread and there was nothing you said that disproved (besides you just claiming it) that the majority of NZB's on Matrix are auto indexed by bots. How can I address something that never existed?

I don't understand why your are attacking me so personally in all this. In none of my post have I attacked you personally only your claim about auto indexing vs user contributed percentage.

The guys who said this are MODS and the admin who help run the site. Not some anonymous internet users.

The first 2-3 posts in the Matrix thread are slightly off topic but they start talking about the bots. One user posted that users were the only source of NZB's and no bots involved. Then in later posts he is corrected and it's stated by 2 MODS that it's both bots and users. The MOD's said around 90% were from bots the rest users. I don't see a real reason they would need to lie about it.

»nzbmatrix.com/forums.php?action=···0#550100

komal

join:2003-02-16
said by Stem Bolt:

said by komal:

If you don't recall me posting any proof then go check the thread I linked to because that's where it was and you refused to address it when I posted it.
Like i said, try using your brain instead of repeating something somebody else said.
Or you could just accept anything you are told, I guess that saves you from having to think for yourself.
"Hey guys, somebody on the internet told me this so it must be true"

I did check the thread and there was nothing you said that disproved (besides you just claiming it) that the majority of NZB's on Matrix are auto indexed by bots. How can I address something that never existed?

I don't understand why your are attacking me so personally in all this. In none of my post have I attacked you personally only your claim about auto indexing vs user contributed percentage.

The guys who said this are MODS and the admin who help run the site. Not some anonymous internet users.

The first 2-3 posts in the Matrix thread are slightly off topic but they start talking about the bots. One user posted that users were the only source of NZB's and no bots involved. Then in later posts he is corrected and it's stated by 2 MODS that it's both bots and users. The MOD's said around 90% were from bots the rest users. I don't see a real reason they would need to lie about it.

»nzbmatrix.com/forums.php?action=···0#550100

I pointed out obvious differences in search results between engines. You refused to address that then and still do now. Its why you won't go back to the old thread but would rather start it again because you know you can't prove your point.
All you can do is keep pointing to some quote on a forum which proves nothing.
Its truly laughable that you have no critical thinking skills and will just accept anything somebody says online.

If you want to tell me I'm wrong, do more than point to what somebody told you.

Otherwise you can just keep pretending that I never posted any searches/proof of my claims and keep whining about how you were told this and it must be true.

Newzbin was by far the most complete search engine before it went down.

In any case, I'm tired of responding to you. It becomes rather pointless when you have the exact same response each time and just keep repeating yourself.

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument but you can keep repeating it if that's all you want to do.


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said by komal:

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument...

I dont care one way or the other, but you said several times in the previous thread:

said by komal:

If Nzbmatrix is automated, the automation sucks.

said by komal:

Either the Nzbmatrix people are exaggerating/lying or their automation is a failure.

said by komal:

doesn't matter what the forums say, the fact is you can simply prove that the automation is either a lie or a failure.

Were you 100% sure yourself, previously?

Do they have automation and it is a poor implementation of it or is automation completely non-existent? I dont think simple search results between the two services is a definitive answer one way or the other. Reminds me of the days when search engines popped up all over the place. Some were obviously much better than others. All were automated, results were given differently, sites didnt always get indexed as they should. possibly the case here?

I think the disagreement here is that we have a staff member of the Matrix saying one thing and a user raising legitimate claims with just simple search results between two indexers, which again, doesnt necessarily prove anything 100%..just that the matrix is lacking in some form.
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teh
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reply to gjrhine
Didn't realised they closed up

Even though I have NZBMatrix accounts. I find it easier to just use www.binsearch.info
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Badonkadonk
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But in my recent research I see that binsearch misses stuff. Headers are going to be the alternative to Newsbin for raw searches, if accuracy and full listing is important.
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teh
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I did not realised that. I haven't used nntp as much as before.
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komal

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reply to swintec
said by swintec:

said by komal:

"But somebody told me" isn't much of an argument...

I dont care one way or the other, but you said several times in the previous thread:

said by komal:

If Nzbmatrix is automated, the automation sucks.

said by komal:

Either the Nzbmatrix people are exaggerating/lying or their automation is a failure.

said by komal:

doesn't matter what the forums say, the fact is you can simply prove that the automation is either a lie or a failure.

Were you 100% sure yourself, previously?

Do they have automation and it is a poor implementation of it or is automation completely non-existent? I dont think simple search results between the two services is a definitive answer one way or the other. Reminds me of the days when search engines popped up all over the place. Some were obviously much better than others. All were automated, results were given differently, sites didnt always get indexed as they should. possibly the case here?

I think the disagreement here is that we have a staff member of the Matrix saying one thing and a user raising legitimate claims with just simple search results between two indexers, which again, doesnt necessarily prove anything 100%..just that the matrix is lacking in some form.

It is pretty easy to prove.

Look at some of the popular newsgroups that Nzbmatrix definitely does focus on, like alt.binaries.multimedia, find some shows that are popular that Nzbmatrix was actively archiving at some point, something on HBO most likely. Then do the search on a raw search engine and you'll find that the same show is still being posted to the same group, whether its individual episodes, DVDs, reups etc. etc.

Now look at Nzbmatrix, it often misses all those episodes.

Nzbmatrix indexes more heavily when a show is airing and thus when it is popular and users are paying attention. At that point, users will be more actively adding NZBs to the site. When the show dies down, either hiatus or having ended, it stops being actively added to Nzbmatrix.

My Sopranos example is still valid. Episodes are still being posted all the time on Usenet, but Nzbmatrix doesn't grab any of them even if they are posted to popular groups. Either they turn their automation off or it doesn't exist.

komal

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reply to teh
said by teh:

Didn't realised they closed up

Even though I have NZBMatrix accounts. I find it easier to just use www.binsearch.info

Binsearch is pretty good, but Newzbin gave easy access to the NFOs of every release which was a nice feature, given how complete they are in terms of their index, it was easier to decide which rip to download that way.

komal

join:2003-02-16
reply to Badonkadonk
said by Badonkadonk:

But in my recent research I see that binsearch misses stuff. Headers are going to be the alternative to Newsbin for raw searches, if accuracy and full listing is important.

Never noticed that.

What do you use to search headers? A site or a client?

Badonkadonk
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Client. Mostly Newsbin and Grabit.


90115534
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reply to gjrhine
I use newsleecher to download headers and search through them.

Sometimes I use newsleecher supersearch too.


Warzau
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reply to gjrhine
Great I just saw that today.


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reply to gjrhine
I used both Newzbin2 & NZBMatrix but often used the raw search on Newzbin2 quite often.

I can use Binsearch but I also used MysterBin for raw searches but MysteryBin closed shop this week as well!
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Payment providers are drying up for these services. It's not good.


Warzau
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reply to gjrhine
But Goobers are not

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Funny. And no, plenty more where we came from.