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[Info] Scroogled! Microsoft Gets Aggressive in Fight Against Goo


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Scroogled! Microsoft Gets Aggressive in Fight Against Google

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Microsoft has apparently taken off the gloves in its fight against Google. And if you thought Gmail Man hit a little too close to home, wait until you see Scroogled. This new Microsoft web site says that all of Google’s shopping results are now paid ads.

“In the beginning, Google preached, ‘Don't be evil,’ but that changed on May 31, 2012.” The Scroogled web site notes. “That's when Google Shopping announced a new initiative. Simply put, all of their shopping results are now paid ads.”

“In their under-the-radar announcement, Google admits they've now built ‘a purely commercial model’ that delivers listings ranked by ‘bid price,’” the site continues. “Google Shopping is nothing more than a list of targeted ads that unsuspecting customers assume are search results. They call these ‘Product Listing Ads’ a ‘truly great search.’”

Yikes.
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More @ »winsupersite.com/bing/scroogled


Have you been Scroogled? Try Bing—we don't limit your shopping choices.
»scroogled.com/

News about Scroogled
»www.bing.com/news/search ··· ORM=EWRE

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Re: [Info] Scroogled! Microsoft Gets Aggressive in Fight Against

I stopped using Google when I noticed that ads for products I had Googled started appearing in similar websites. e.g. an ad for a touchpad when I visited PC Magazine.

I'm Bing only now, uninstalled Chrome too mostly because IE10 on Win8 is faster, but the ad thing is another reason.
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Google shopping has been in the $hitter for quite awhile now. In the old days they would return numerous pages of direct links to stores. Now you might get half a page of links to other searches all bunched together, with very little variety. Been Binging along nicely for the past year or so with lots of returns and much better selection. This was some low hanging fruit for MicroSoft.

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[Info] New Microsoft ad Scroogles on the Surface


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New Microsoft ad Scroogles on the Surface

You didn't think Redmond would just have a Scroogling Web site, did you? No, it's taking the fight against Google to short-form film. And it's selling the Surface at the same time.

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Here we have a couple in the kitchen, a scenario that leads quite beautifully into the concept of Google cooking your shopping searches.

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While I am always an admirer of bravado, I feel bound to point out that Bing isn't entirely innocent of doing, well, the same thing as Google.

Many have whispered that its searches are, at the least, a mix of paid and unpaid results.

Still, why stand in the way of a good brawl?

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More @ »news.cnet.com/8301-17852 ··· ag=title


VIDEO: Are you getting Scroogled? @ »www.youtube.com/watch?fe ··· luNt0mvA

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Re: [Info] Scroogled! Microsoft Gets Aggressive in Fight Against

Godzilla Vs. Megalon: choose your side now!
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said by digitalfutur:

I stopped using Google when I noticed that ads for products I had Googled started appearing in similar websites. e.g. an ad for a touchpad when I visited PC Magazine.

I'm Bing only now, uninstalled Chrome too mostly because IE10 on Win8 is faster, but the ad thing is another reason.

You actually see ADS? You don't block those? GEEEZZZ....

Just block the ads with the proxomitron or an ad blocker, use Fx with Google Sharing extension so Google cannot track you, you see no ads, you simply get good searches using Google through Google Sharng proxy.

If you use Bing, Microsoft tracks everything you do. So, why would you use it?
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said by Mele20:

If you use Bing, Microsoft tracks everything you do. So, why would you use it?

Because most people do not care about being tracked. It is when they start catching you that one needs to worry.
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Then it is too late to worry. You are already owned and you can't do anything about it...welcome to Brave New World.

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I think MS may be taking some of the marketing experience they gained from the xbox 360.

I like this guerrilla marketing. Despite being marketing it is entertaining and has a humorous truth about it.
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You actually see ADS? You don't block those? GEEEZZZ....

THis thread is not about ads on web pages. It is about google shopping formerly known as www.froogle.com

Blocking ads doesn't stop you from being scroogled on froogle.

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You actually see ADS? You don't block those? GEEEZZZ....

I don't see web page ads any more than I see newspaper, or magazine ads.

Just block the ads with the proxomitron or an ad blocker ...

Nor do I spend time with Sharpie in hand blocking print ads.

... use Fx with Google Sharing extension so Google cannot track you, you see no ads, you simply get good searches using Google through Google Sharng proxy.

If you use Bing, Microsoft tracks everything you do. So, why would you use it?

Not sure I know what good it does for Microsoft, Google, or Yahoo! to track me. I buy very little online; mostly esoteric stuff that won't interest 95% of your, "sheeple". I don't go where the crowd goes. In a sense, I "stand out" because I don't do things to blend in.

BTW, how do you find an invisible man? You fill the room with smoke.

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[Info] 'Twas the story of Scroogled

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• 'Twas the story of Scroogled

• Uploaded videos by Bing - Featured Playlists
»www.youtube.com/user/bin ··· re=watch

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Re: [Info] Scroogled! Microsoft Gets Aggressive in Fight Against

i've all but given up on google.

it's bad enough they list sellers by their payment status, but when they start blocking (firearm related) items i am looking for, that's the last straw.

i'm using bing from here on out...........

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said by quitaccount:

i've all but given up on google.

it's bad enough they list sellers by their payment status, but when they start blocking (firearm related) items i am looking for, that's the last straw.

Maybe I'm doing a different search, or maybe its because I don't run any kind of cookie or ad-block software. But, I just opened up google, and typed in "purchase firearms online" and got back 10+ pages of results. The top says "About 7,480,000 results (0.11 seconds) ".

Looks like its working for me.

--Brian

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on google shopping.

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Ok. All I did was click on "Shopping" under the search bar, and I got what I'm showing above.

The text at the top says

Shopping
About 9,560,000 results

So, if what you are looking for cannot be found in the over 9 million results, what exactly are you looking for? Something that has not been made yet?

--Brian

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yes---now try searching something like "9mm JHP". or ".40 S&W 165gr." both are extremely plentiful and standard----not obscure by ANY means.

........or most real gun parts and ammo. or real firearms.

some reloading supplies and training stuff come up, but the results are MAJORLY suppressed.

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Sorry to take this a bit OT, but maybe you need to change your search.

I did both of the items as you suggested exactly, and got no results.

However, if I changed ".40 S&W 165gr." to be "40 S&W ammo" then I get just over 200 results.

Maybe it is how you are searching that is the problem?

Not saying the problem does not exist, just a suggestion to try is all.

--Brian

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notice NONE are actual ammunition. settings are not tweaked to omit results on my end.

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Interesting.

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If you use Bing, Microsoft tracks everything you do. So, why would you use it?

Because I don't want Google tracking everything I do.

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it's bad enough they list sellers by their payment status, but when they start blocking (firearm related) items i am looking for, that's the last straw.


Works for me ...
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said by Mele20:

If you use Bing, Microsoft tracks everything you do. So, why would you use it?

Because I don't want Google tracking everything I do.

Then use Fx and Google Sharing extension. Problem solved.

»www.abine.com/googlesharing/
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Works for me ...

That is google, not froogle.
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I've never heard of "froogle" until now. Plus, I used Scroogle as my search engine for years...so I don't even get the title of this thread. Scroogle was great...Google couldn't track your searches. When the author took it off line about a year or so ago I moved to Google Sharing so Google can't track my searches. I wouldn't use Bing even if their search was better because I don't know of a way block the tracking.

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That is google, not froogle.

So? quitaccount See Profile was complaining about Google, not froogle.

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I guess the thing I don't get is the difference between searching on Google "Web" for something I want to buy online, VS going to Google "Shopping" and doing the same search.

Should they not return the same thing if one enters "Where can I buy X online?", as they are using the same search engine?

--Brian

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no. he was complaining about google shopping. it still doesn't work for me, and just about everyone on ar15.com.

they have a serious anti-gun agenda as far as I can tell.

it is my choice AND my right. I don't need them to parent me.
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I don't get it either. I want to buy something I put in Google Sharing proxy.

I have no problems getting thousands of returns for the ammo some have mentioned here. Without adding a word like "purchase", plus the particular ammo, I get both shopping sites and sites that discuss the amno, etc. But that doesn't bother me...I just look through the first few pages and try the sites that sell the ammo and ignore the discussion/blog sites.
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Google shopping AKA froogle is different from google web. This thread is about google shopping (froogle).