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twinkie

@verizon.net
reply to tmc8080

Brooklyn only

said by tmc8080:

So is big RED behind this ? (Verizon?)

I wouldn't be surprised if the only big landline telco in the area is trying to raise the costs for cablecos so that will justify higher rates especially in NY metro.

AFAIK, cablevision labor is 100% non-union.

brooklyn is union. bronx had a vote but majority voted against union representation.

everyone else leave hostess out of this thread please. one has nothing to do with the other.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by twinkie :

everyone else leave hostess out of this thread please. one has nothing to do with the other.

Actually, it does when it comes to how unions play "dirty" and then cry foul when the same tactics are used against them.


attacker1

@verizon.net

said by moonpuppy:

said by twinkie :

everyone else leave hostess out of this thread please. one has nothing to do with the other.

Actually, it does when it comes to how unions play "dirty" and then cry foul when the same tactics are used against them.

union sometimes play dirty. non-union ALWAYS play dirty!


woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
reply to moonpuppy

yea it was the "greedy" unions that wanted Hostess to modernize and not the company that saddled it with unsustainable debt in the liquidation process. Yea damn those tactics
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
reply to attacker1

said by attacker1 :

union ALWAYS play dirty. non-union ALWAYS play dirty!

Fix it for you.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
reply to woody7

said by woody7:

yea it was the "greedy" unions that wanted Hostess to modernize and not the company that saddled it with unsustainable debt in the liquidation process. Yea damn those tactics

It was the Teamsters and every other union came to an agreement and one union that didn't want to play ball. So instead of a pay cut, they get a pink slip and a guarantee that the union will not be welcome IF someone takes over and starts the company back up again.

Also, when you "modernize" you usually have less people doing jobs that become more automated and unions hate that.

Try again.


Jim Kirk
Premium
join:2005-12-09
reply to moonpuppy

Didn't need fixing.


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by Jim Kirk:

Didn't need fixing.

Actually, it did. My mother is a big union supporter and she worked management. One day, during negotiations with the union, a union rep was given a contract to look over. He read it, put it down, pulled out a Colt 1911 .45 caliber handgun, placed it on the table and said, "Let's get down to real talks." Management looked at each other and calmly walked out of the room and declared a lockout. Took a week but the next union thug agreed to the contract that was left on the table. This was back in 1977. Some things don't change.