| Microsoft STALKS YOU Even More Than Supermarkets Do From The Register:
Web-tracking is rife on technology vendor websites, with Microsoft among the worst offenders. Tech sites serve up even more trackers than the average online retailer, say browser privacy plug-in devs. |
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| And this is new news?.... if you are online you are tracked... period.
It's how they make their money, it's the life in the tech age. |
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 Dude111An Awesome DudePremium
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kudos:11 | Thats why blocking THIRD PARTY COOKIES is so important now!! (Actually blocking ALL COOKIES would be better but some sites wont "hold your login" without a cookie  (You will still be logged in but your browser wont be synced so it will keep logging out)) |
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 IanPremium
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Re: Microsoft STALKS YOU Even More Than Supermarkets Do So....the news here is that web-sites are using tracking technology? Wonder if that Y2K thing scheduled to happen in a couple years will amount to much?  |
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It's news because Microsoft itself claims to offer tracking protection.
Does Microsoft offer its own users protection from tracking by Microsoft? |
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Dude111An Awesome DudePremium
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kudos:11 | They want you to THINK THEY DO!!!!!! |
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Mele20Premium
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kudos:4 | reply to Dr Tweak
Re: Microsoft STALKS YOU Even More Than Supermarkets Do said by Dr Tweak:And this is new news?.... if you are online you are tracked... period.
It's how they make their money, it's the life in the tech age.
You don't have to be tracked. If you are tracked it is because you allow it.
Of course, if you have Windows 8 you are in Microsoft tracking hell and no way out. Avoid Windows 8.
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| They don't make any money if you ignore everything. Flash an ad in my face, I ignore it. I get newsletters from companies I do want to deal with, and find other companies recommended and discussed in forums like these.
I feel that for every ad I ignore, I'm costing them the time and money it takes to put the ad in front of me. I block as many as I can, and if feeling sarcastic, can usually write a rather nasty parody of the ad to email to friends. |
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Re: said by Dude111:Actually blocking ALL COOKIES would be better but some sites wont "hold your login" without a cookie And some (*cough* target.com *cough*) won't let you use the site at all without both cookies and allowing their tracking crap. I actually don't have a problem with 1st party cookies, but even with them enabled the site displays nothing but an "Oops.. You need cookies enabled!" message with the Ghostery plug-in running.
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Mele20Premium
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kudos:4 | Yep. I called Target and complained about that. |
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| I'll enable, then close FX when I'm done. I have FX set to delete all crap on exit.
Reopen the browser or change to Opera and keep going. So cookies really didn't to them any good. They can't track from a different browser. |
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Re: Microsoft STALKS YOU Even More Than Supermarkets Do said by Mele20:You don't have to be tracked. If you are tracked it is because you allow it.
So remind me ... what happens if I let them track me?
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Dude111An Awesome DudePremium
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kudos:11 | You should really value AS MUCH PRIVACY AS YOU CAN STILL ATTAIN Norm!! |
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| said by Dude111:You should really value AS MUCH PRIVACY AS YOU CAN STILL ATTAIN Norm!!
That is not an answer. My question stands ... what happens if I let them track me?
And why the informal familiarity? |
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 ashrc4Premium
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australia | reply to FF4m3
Re: Microsoft STALKS YOU Even More Than Supermarkets Do The article is about tracking predominately on a per site basis.
Not the same as supermarkets loyalty card tracking unless you do it online also.
said by Ian:So....the news here is that web-sites are using tracking technology? Wonder if that Y2K thing scheduled to happen in a couple years will amount to much?
I think all our personal info (approx. 5 billion online) is going for about 5$ per head at present. If i was asked for how much i thought my private info their going to have is worth and to whom they want to SHARE IT WITH......more than they could afford would be my answer.
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Re: said by NormanS:That is not an answer. My question stands ... what happens if I let them track me?
Short answer: You wind up in various databases beyond theirs as they monetize their investment, for purposes having nothing to do with advertising. And down the road you face repercussions you can't explain as judgments (which could well be faulty) are made. |
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said by NormanS:That is not an answer. My question stands ... what happens if I let them track me?
Realistically? In most cases, you get ads targeted to you more specific to your tastes (or they try to). Whether they know 1,000 useless facts about your life or not, you're number 170,000,000 in their database, and likely not that interesting.
I happen to run Firefox, with Adblock plus, DNT+ and Ghostery so as not to be tracked. In reality, if I didn't, the only difference I'd likely EVER actually encounter or notice would be ads that I'd ignore.
But it could theoretically get a little more intrusive depending on who is tracking and why.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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said by goalieskates:Short answer: You wind up in various databases beyond theirs as they monetize their investment, for purposes having nothing to do with advertising.
Then maybe it shouldn't matter, because my tastes don't match their offerings; so they've wasted their money on my data?
And down the road you face repercussions you can't explain as judgments (which could well be faulty) are made.
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| said by NormanS:I suppose a propensity to visit offshore sites might raise a few eyebrows, but blocking tracking cookies won't mask my surfing habits from the NSA eyes on the Tier 1 carrier networks.
I would agree that if you're doing something that would be of interest to a 3-letter agency, tracking cookies and Viagra ads aren't your biggest concern.
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 nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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Drop the paranoia said by Dude111:Thats why blocking THIRD PARTY COOKIES is so important now!! (Actually blocking ALL COOKIES would be better but some sites wont "hold your login" without a cookie (You will still be logged in but your browser wont be synced so it will keep logging out))
Get real.
If they can tell that you are logged in, they can track you. It does not matter whether they use your IP, a cookie, or a web session ID. If you can login, they have a database entry for you, and whatever method they use to determine that you are logged in is sufficient for them to be able build a dossier on what you do.
If you are going to login to a site, you might as well allow them to set a site cookie.
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