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Nezmo
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reply to djrobx

Re: iTunes 11 is out

said by djrobx:

said by Nezmo:

iTunes 11 has not resolved the problem of background tasks hogging CPU in Windows. Just one more reason for me to get a Mini as an iTunes server. I'm done with iTunes on Windows. You win Apple.

Yep, same problem here.

It works fine initially, but when I leave iTunes running, I'll find ATH.EXE is hogging the CPU.

I have all kinds of macs in my house, but the 24x7 server runs Windows. I'm not interested in adding extra power consumption just because Apple can't get their wifi shit together.

It's a pretty widely reported problem. I had hopes for v11 but it's acting more like a re-skin of v10 on Windows.

I give. I'll be ordering a Mini this weekend just to run iTunes. I know there are other options but I am heavily invested in the whole AirPlay thing. It's just iTunes that blows.
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Farhad Manjoo over at Slate writes a rambling, semi-trolling piece on iTunes 11, but I agree with his central premise:

What’s more, the new version doesn’t solve the key problems plaguing iTunes. First, it still does too many different things—it’s a media player, a store, and a sync manager. Second, it remains a local file manager in a connected age. The new software does have deeper integration with Apple’s iCloud service, but at its core iTunes is meant to manage “your” music files—that is, stuff you’ve purchased or burned—on a single computer. That’s an outmoded model, one that’s being replaced by subscription systems like Spotify, which feature no distinction between stuff you own and stuff you don’t. Instead you have rights to play everything, all the time, whenever you want.

So even if the new iTunes is an improvement, it’s not a permanent solution. The only way for Apple to fix it would be to throw it out and start all over again. Perhaps—as Macworld’s Jason Snell has suggested—iTunes should be split into multiple programs: One to play your media, one to sync your devices, and one to buy or subscribe to stuff from Apple. Or maybe it could be replaced altogether with a quicker, lightweight Web-based system. Whatever Apple does, it shouldn’t aim merely to fix iTunes but instead come up with a brand new system better suited to our age. iTunes 11 is enough. Please don’t let there be an iTunes 12.


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Thinkdiff
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Many people still want to own their music. I avoid subscription services.

$25/year for iTunes Match plus a few song/album purchases a year makes a lot more sense to me than $120/year for Spotify, which has no guarantee of future usability. Any music I get from iTunes will work practically forever.

And the iTunes Match / iTunes in the Cloud additions in iTunes 11 do exactly what he wants - integration between your local and cloud media.
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bobrk
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Agree. I still buy CDs, and I've even been known, much to my wife's chagrin, to purchase LPs at garage sales.


Nezmo
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said by bobrk:

Agree. I still buy CDs, and I've even been known, much to my wife's chagrin, to purchase LPs at garage sales.

I still have 200 LPs. I have converted them all to digital but there's something about reading the sleeve and flipping the disc at half time. Funny your wife doesn't like it. My girl LOVED the fact I had a turntable .
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I buy a lot of music too, but I really love music, and the subscription services like MOG and Spotify are wonderful. I don't care if they disappear tomorrow, because they have allowed me to listen to a vast library of songs that I would never have been able to afford in my lifetime.

In a pinch, I can record anything from Spotify and save it forever.


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said by jmn1207:

because they have allowed me to listen to a vast library of songs that I would never have been able to afford in my lifetime.

This.

Before Spotify I swore I would never "rent" music but I tried it out for a month and found a ton of music that I like (and musicians and labels that I like that are on there, creating playlists) and there was no going back. And if nothing else, it's nice to "try before you buy" -- I used to buy from eMusic and suffered from a number of disappointing selections with no way to "return" them. And anything I really really like on Spotify, I buy.
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Got it and like it. The info panes almost seem like a hat tip to MS' metro UI


Nezmo
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said by darcilicious:

said by jmn1207:

because they have allowed me to listen to a vast library of songs that I would never have been able to afford in my lifetime.

This.

Before Spotify I swore I would never "rent" music but I tried it out for a month and found a ton of music that I like (and musicians and labels that I like that are on there, creating playlists) and there was no going back. And if nothing else, it's nice to "try before you buy" -- I used to buy from eMusic and suffered from a number of disappointing selections with no way to "return" them. And anything I really really like on Spotify, I buy.

I just use Pandora to find new music.
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1 recommendation

I know a lot of people who enjoy Pandora. I prefer Spotify
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said by Nezmo:

iTunes 11 has not resolved the problem of background tasks hogging CPU in Windows. Just one more reason for me to get a Mini as an iTunes server. I'm done with iTunes on Windows. You win Apple.

Mine seems to be doing okay (for now at least). I'm having issues with my graphics driver hogging ~80% CPU utilization for no apparent reason, though.
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Nezmo
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said by Cody:

said by Nezmo:

iTunes 11 has not resolved the problem of background tasks hogging CPU in Windows. Just one more reason for me to get a Mini as an iTunes server. I'm done with iTunes on Windows. You win Apple.

Mine seems to be doing okay (for now at least). I'm having issues with my graphics driver hogging ~80% CPU utilization for no apparent reason, though.

It happens for me about 75% of the time iTunes is running.
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Cody
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I'll have to keep an eye on it.
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Jet
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I just upgraded my MacBook Pro 8,3 with SSD to iTunes 11. I had a smooth install over wi-fi on battery power(I know, I am a wild man). It took about 2 minutes, I manually restarted after the update.

The new iTunes is super fast, not that the old one was slow. But this version is noticeably quicker on my machine. After going though it and setting it up as I like, I spent some time with the new features. Overall I am very impressed with this "new" iTunes. I will be recommending it.

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said by Cody:

Mine seems to be doing okay (for now at least). I'm having issues with my graphics driver hogging ~80% CPU utilization for no apparent reason, though.

Mine works fine too the way you posted. The issue is that if I leave iTunes running as a "server" it will eventually start hogging the CPU, perhaps several hours later. I can nearly 100% reproduce it by just leaving iTunes running overnight. Once the high CPU usage starts, wifi syncing will no longer work until I kill ATH.exe or AppleMobileDeviceManager.exe (whichever one or both that are hogging the CPU).

The weird part is that neither iTunes nor the iPhone think they're performing a sync. So it's not that it's crapping out part way through a sync - the process just seems to intermittently get stuck in an endless CPU hogging loop.
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Can you share your methodology for converting your LPs? I currently have a mid-80's stereo set and have made some attempts, but have not completed my ripping of <100 records.


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I use internet radio to find new music, kind of like the old days, but without commercials.

»www.radioparadise.com/

»www.somafm.com/

And I send them both a few bucks every month.


Nezmo
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said by bobrk:

Can you share your methodology for converting your LPs? I currently have a mid-80's stereo set and have made some attempts, but have not completed my ripping of

Sure. It's been a while so I need to fire up my laptop and refresh my memory on what software I was using.

I bought a USB Turntable. I believe I captured the LP audio to a single file (one for Side A, one for Side B) then used the software to put markers on the two files for the track splits. The software then splits the audio file in to separate tracks. I then added ID3 data and then imported in to iTunes. I'll get more specifics for you.
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Thanks! Windows or Mac OS X?

I have the basics down, but when I ripped one album, it sounded tinny. I know about the RIAA curve, and so I am taking the output of the tape jacks, but it still didn't sound right.

I then suspected the DtoA conversion in my old G5 Mac, so was going to use an old iMic adapter that I have laying around (thinking that might have a better DtoA converter.

Finally, I've replaced the old G5 with a mini and still haven't gotten around to trying the rip again.


Nezmo
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Windows but I am sure there are equivalents.

Phono output from a regular deck does not match line-in levels thus a receiver has to have a 'phono' input - you can't just hook to a tape or CD input. for eg. This is the RIAA curve you are referring to. the USB turntable I have already does that conversion and outputs through the USB. I'll get more details.
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bobrk
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Right, and presumably, the tape output is the same.


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Problem with rental type services is the lack of imports. It is great for domestic stuff but imports are sorely lacking.


Cody
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I noticed that with mine, as well. Shoot.
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quote:
iTunes Gets an Upgrade Without Missing a Beat
Published on December 4, 2012
by Walt Mossberg
Apple’s iTunes is the world’s most popular computer program for playing, managing and buying music, movies and TV shows. The company estimates the number of copies in active use to be in the high hundreds of millions. Now, Apple has given iTunes its biggest overhaul since 2003, when the software — originally just a jukebox for Macs — was made available for Windows computers and the built-in iTunes store was added.

I’ve been testing this major new version, called iTunes 11, and I consider it a significant improvement in the look, feel, speed and function of the program, which had become somewhat bloated, sluggish and dense over the years as new features were added.

This new version won’t please every iTunes user. Some familiar ways of doing things have changed and some longtime features have been axed in the name of simplification. People who use iTunes solely to organize and play their media, not to buy it from Apple, will find many more prompts to patronize the iTunes store. There also are a few small flaws Apple is pledging to fix soon.

Overall, however, I found the new iTunes a pleasure to use. The venerable program is now brighter and more colorful, with clever and pleasing new capabilities and faster search. There is tighter integration between the library of media that resides on your computer and media stored in Apple’s online iCloud service. Streaming from the cloud has been expanded. The store has also been made cleaner, simpler and easier to use...
»allthingsd.com/20121204/itunes-g···-a-beat/

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Generally I like the simplification of iTunes 11 except for my specific needs, let me explain and maybe someone will chime in with a workaround.

I host a weekly radio program and building the basic playlist in iTunes before exporting it and massaging it with the broadcast software I use.

Under iTunes 10.x on the PC I can search all my songs for a word, say "triangle" and all the songs matching that will show up and I can pop them into a new playlist and get the total playtime of that playlist and within the playlist highlight songs and get the running time for the highlighted songs combined.

Under iTunes 11 I have to manually force it to look for the word(s) I'm looking for in song titles only each time, when I create the new playlist I get a *total* running time, but I can't get a running time for selected songs within the new playlist.

Any suggestions?

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Paolo
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does it finally offered in 64 bits? the prev version was only 64 bit "installer" which means nothing to 99.99999 percent of us, it better be a true 64 bit? can someone check task manager and see if its a 64 bit process or a 32 bit one? also can u check if its installed in program files or program files (x86)??? plz and thanks
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Its showing up as 32 bit for me.
iTunes.exe *32

edit: its also hogging up 450k of ram. Only thing taking up more is flash player and I'm streaming a music video right now.


interlync

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reply to haroldo
We like the new iTunes over here at the office, but I do miss the cover/album art view that we had in the sidebar (The optional little box showing if that track/video had album art). Also miss the multiple List view options.


interlync

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reply to Paolo
It does in fact show 64bit (on Mac). I notice some speed improvements overall, but that also might be some of those lost features no longer hogging iTunes resources.


Paolo
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crap, bad advertizing, apple says its 64 bit, but its still 32 bit, just the installer program is 64 bits id radther have a 32 bit installer and a 64 bit program, apple got htis one backwards? what the?
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