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Boricua65 Premium join:2002-01-26 Sacto Sh*tty	reply to Kramer Re: Microsoft Surface Pricing said by Kramer: ...they have a tall mountain to climb and price could mean the difference between success and failure. Some news on the Surface front:»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412729,00.asp I read the article and the author got it right. "Microsoft needs to be doing everything they can to project an image of success for Surface and Windows 8. The $899 starting price for Surface Pro will significantly limit penetration," Moorhead said. "Microsoft needs a starting configuration at $699 to drive significant volume and then have a step-up configuration to $899." -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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Kramer Premium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 Reviews: ·GoDaddy Hosting Host: Microsoft Help Satellite Radio Wireless Security	Yep, I totally agree. Microsoft really can't afford to lose this one. They should be at least giving the RTs away for next to free and at the very most sell the Pro at the price your quote mentions. I think it is ridiculous they would sell the Pro with the keyboard as an option.
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JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA Reviews: ·PHONE POWER ·Comcast	Of course OEMs are free to make those $699 Surface Pro devices. Who knows what the point of the Microsoft hardware is - "best quality" might be it, while OEMs can come in and lowball for volume, possibly. -- My place : »www.schettino.us
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aurgathor join:2002-12-01 Lynnwood, WA kudos:1	reply to Boricua65 I think the target customer is a "money no object" buyer -- either those who can expense it, or those who willing to pay lots of money just to have an expensive tablet. Personally, I have a feeling they didn't really want a high volume initially, but they're more than likely cut prices and ramp up volume, maybe as early as after 6 months. -- Wacky Races 2012!
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Goober Premium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:5 Reviews: ·Dish Network	At the prices I see and the fact that it's a true Windows computer, I can see a lot of corporate buyers for this. I'll certainly ask for one when my work computer is due for a change out. Unfortunately that's still not for a year and a half, but by then the Surface Pro devices will be mature. This is the only real tablet for some people (like me). -- After reading postings from the self so-called experts on the MS and Apple forums, I just have to shake my head sadly.
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JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA Reviews: ·PHONE POWER ·Comcast	said by Goober: This is the only real tablet for some people (like me). The only question is can the "hybrid" Win8 touch laptops like the Yoga ($999 base model has 128gb disk 4gb ram core i3 and of course a keyboard, at 3+ lbs) but get down to the weight/battery life class of the Surface Pro or not. And of course if you have a Surface RT and a Pro, you only need one keyboard cover -- My place : »www.schettino.us
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Goober Premium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:5 Reviews: ·Dish Network	I think over time that's going to be possible and likely to happen. I think Intel also needs to ramp up its game. Their mobile initiatives move too slowly. With AMD struggling, I don't think they provide nearly as large of a fire to light under Intel's butt as they used to do. But the touch laptops you mentioned are ones that I'm considering purchasing for the kids at home. They have Android tabs as gaming devices, but the older they get the more they need real tools for school. PowerPoint and Word being the big ones. I suppose the RTs can do the job, but I'm just lukewarm on them. They're already getting very familiar with Win8 from having it on their desktops, so transitioning will be easy. It really does come down to the hardware choice and the apps they'll truly need. -- After reading postings from the self so-called experts on the MS and Apple forums, I just have to shake my head sadly.
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digitalfutur Sees More Than Shown Premium join:2000-07-15 BurlingtonON kudos:2	reply to Kramer said by Kramer: I didn't realize how cheap the touchscreen Ultrabooks had become. It is going to be a tough sell, especially without a keyboard. Cheap does not equal light. That Acer is more than twice the weight of the Surface Pro, a big consideration if it's being used all day. And the keyboard is not detachable. -- Logic requires one to deal with decisions that one's ego will not permit. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.
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RazzyW8 @rr.com	reply to Kramer I'm not the type of person who splurge on new items but if it wasn't for my current $1500 laptop, I'd be in line on buying one of these no doubt. Any Windows 8 x86 tablet will be my next buy for sure, and I'm willing to spend up to $1500 for one.
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RazzyAlias @charter.com	ArsTechnica and BRG both have said it's over priced and its use is unclear
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mozerd Light Will Pierce The Darkness Premium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON	reply to Boricua65 IMO Microsoft made a strategic error in pricing for the Surface. Apparently Microsoft forgot the 1st law of Sales and marketing -- achieving immediate market share IS everything -- PRICE determines market share. The Price for the surface is far too high -- does not mater which version. Microsoft will achieve their penetration goals but it will take far longer than their current plan envisages. -- David Mozer IT-Expert on Call Information Technology for Home and Business
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JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA Reviews: ·PHONE POWER ·Comcast	reply to RazzyAlias said by RazzyAlias : ArsTechnica and BRG both have said it's over priced and its use is unclear well then I guess we don't need to decide for ourselves, lol. -- My place : »www.schettino.us
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Goober Premium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:5 Reviews: ·Dish Network	reply to RazzyAlias said by RazzyAlias : ArsTechnica and BRG both have said it's over priced and its use is unclear Overpriced, maybe. Unclear of it's use? A Windows based tablet is infinitely more useful than any piece of Apple hardware, particularly Apple tablets. The genius needs to reconsider his own credentials. -- After reading postings from the self so-called experts on the MS and Apple forums, I just have to shake my head sadly.
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Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1	reply to Kramer said by Kramer: I didn't realize how cheap the touchscreen Ultrabooks had become. It is going to be a tough sell, especially without a keyboard. Actually you can find the Acer Iconia W510-1674 Windows 8 tablet PC for $499 at the Microsoft online store. In contrast it’s a considerably cheaper product then the Microsoft Surface Pro Windows 8 tablet (and about even with the Surface Windows RT tablet) but when you look closer you’ll see its relatively expensive given the specs. The Acer Iconia W510-1674 has an Intel Atom Z2760 1.50 Ghz CPU, 1366 x 768 10.1” display, 2 GB DDR2 800 Mhz RAM, a Lilliputian 32 GB SSD and so on: »www.microsoftstore.com/store/mss···ist.true Also note that I am unclear on whether or not cheaper Windows 8 tablets use Windows 8 or “Windows 8 Pro”. Some cheaper tablets might also use the 32bit version of the OS in part because of the lower RAM density and the larger install footprint of the 64bit version. Generally speaking, higher-end computing performance cost more then middling performance. Also note that shrinking the form factor while attempting to maintain that performance also costs more. A smaller Core i5 based ~11” or smaller screen tablet PC may very well cost more then some ~17”, ~15” and 13” Core i5 based laptops. Also the Microsoft Surface Pro isn’t in a market of its own. It is one Windows 8 tablet in what should be many. I don’t see how Microsoft could undercut their launch partners with fire sale pricing. It would destroy what little incentive OEMs have left to support Microsoft after they (Microsoft) entered the market with their own competing product. Microsoft still needs these OEMs. Why would anyone buy any other Windows 8 tablet if Microsoft’s Surface Pro were significantly cheaper with similar specs? They would be taking a loss on the Surface Pro and they would be killing their competition’s / partners sales. And finally, earlier Windows 7 Core i5 based PC tablets like the Asus Eee Slate EP121, EB121 (Core i5-470UM Arrandale) and Samsung series 7 (Sandy Bridge mobile) were actually more expensive then the typical pricing of new Core i5 Ivy Bridge based Windows 8 tablets. The pricing is more then reasonable and if anything is lower then expected. A company like Intel on the other hand had better match ARM’s SoC initiative in the mobile space or undercut it with their own SoC,….and fast. Even if they have to take a loss,…..
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JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA Reviews: ·PHONE POWER ·Comcast	said by Octavean: Also note that I am unclear on whether or not cheaper Windows 8 tablets use Windows 8 or “Windows 8 Pro”. ARM CPU: RT. Intel CPU: Win8Pro. -- My place : »www.schettino.us
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RazzyW8 @rr.com	reply to RazzyAlias said by RazzyAlias : ArsTechnica and BRG both have said it's over priced and its use is unclear The Surface Pro? It's no way overpriced at all. I'd get one if I got the cash. Apple iPads (or Android tablets) would be totally useless to me. I rather have a full fledged operating system that I can run things I run today and Surface Pro (or any Windows 8 Pro hybrid/tablets) will fit my needs.
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RazzyW8 @rr.com	reply to Octavean Check the CPUs. If it has Intel Atom or i5, it's likely the x86 Windows 8.
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TD Nickell Premium join:2010-07-27 Federal Way, WA	reply to Boricua65 More on Windows 8! »www.fool.com/investing/general/2···yes.aspx
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Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1 1 edit	reply to JohnInSJ said by JohnInSJ: said by Octavean: Also note that I am unclear on whether or not cheaper Windows 8 tablets use Windows 8 or “Windows 8 Pro”. ARM CPU: RT. Intel CPU: Win8Pro. said by RazzyW8 : Check the CPUs. If it has Intel Atom or i5, it's likely the x86 Windows 8. Thanks,…..however,…. I was never unclear on ARM / Windows RT and x86-x64 / Windows 8. In fact I am very clear on such a distinction. What I was trying to say is that there is Windows 8 (non-Pro) Standard for x86-x64 platforms and Windows 8 Pro for x86-x64 platforms and I am unclear if some cheaper Windows 8 (x86-x64) PC tablets use the non-pro version. Venders don’t always make the distinction well online,... Normally I wouldn’t question it but I see the pro and non-pro versions for download via Technet and was thinking some venders would probably use it.
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JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA	Ah ok, I see what you mean. That could make a difference in cost... -- My place : »www.schettino.us
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