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Badonkadonk
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Re: [WIN8] 40 million licenses of Windows 8 in one month

said by norwegian:

We are spiraling out of control on the sell, then, instead of fix, sell something else of dubious quality to avoid doing the previous job properly.

I doubt that's the reason for Win8. It's clear what the MS strategy is as it moves forward, regardless of whether the old-schoolers can stomach it.

Dubious quality? If that's an objective statement, please support it. I haven't seen or experienced anything that would indicate as such.
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After reading postings from the self so-called experts on the MS and Apple forums, I just have to shake my head sadly.


norwegian
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I understand that point on direction, no qualms there.
Is this software aiming at the desktop at all - I doubt it, and maybe I'm of the "old school whine".

Was Win8 rushed to gain market share sales before Xmas like so much other 'popular software' is today?
I'm not in on how much research and development went into this software compared to any other, as I'm not an employee - Vista was a flop, Win 7 was rushed to fix and gain market share back.
I've not even bothered with Win 8 yet and possibly won't and may look at Linux for my needs once Win 7 is out of security updates.

This is a view on how Microsoft processed recent O/S', the way markets want sales for share holders not top quality software that will last a long time, costs of fixes versus cost of gaining new sales and possibly more market share - something Microsoft has been notorious of since it started.
Is this a view on programming quality, no, I'm neither a programmer, nor want to be one.

I can supply links to prove all of my views, but my first line was - "without sounding like a troll"...

I had hoped people here in this specific forum could take constructive criticism.
However the first reply to my comment is reminiscent of the fan-boys of Linux, Apple etc.

It was a view....take it or leave it.

My base comment relative to the topic was, and maybe I should have elaborated more:
If Win 7 was as cheap as Win 8, I'd go out and buy 12 times what I have bought already, so, to the figure of 60 million over 2 months versus 40 million over 1 month, the sales are lagging big time. R&D may not have been a big cost and hence the cheap price.......the share holders would not have it the other way around. I can provide links to that too if required. This is a view not a flame war on Microsoft, which I use daily on all my computers.

I will move on and not get into a battle of your point of view versus mine, and hope the rest of the loyalists can allow someone to be objective of the O/S they love and the history that is carved - it's all about sales is it not?

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke


Badonkadonk
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You're the one making this contentious. I simply asked if you can support "dubious quality" because that isn't something that's been raised before.

Give me a break and stop acting so hurt.
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After reading postings from the self so-called experts on the MS and Apple forums, I just have to shake my head sadly.



norwegian
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said by Badonkadonk:

I simply asked if you can support "dubious quality" because that isn't something that's been raised before.

Okay, I understand your question on my terminology. I'll try to adapt to what I've read and think I understand, even though this may really need to be extended to the security forum not sales topics, and I'll use recent topics, not 10 month old topics.

While it seems they have tried to clear up bad past experiences, it still does not address certain concerns. Certification being the main one. They should have looked it over and moved away for signed software or at least worked with approaching it differently.

Here is a couple of links and the rest only time will produce; remember it is closed code, not open source; please don't ask me to go there either.

»www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/25···t_ready/
»www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenbe···easures/
»www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/01···already/
»threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/vupen···t-110112
»VUPEN has 0-day exploit for Windows 8 & IE 10
»www.pcworld.com/article/2013512/···les.html

Some may say these are all hype. The facts are all recent versions of Windows have exploits ready at release and the comments are - "we will see". Some of the non-fixed issues in Windows 7 and the super cheap sales of Windows 8 has me more curious than any previous flavor - speculation on my behalf....

I wish I didn't use those words because for me to produce proof this early, well it is not possible at my level. Time will tell.

This is so way off topic it is ridiculous, I apologize for that and understand if mods delete it all.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke