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VirusTotal adds Malwarebytes

»blog.virustotal.com/2012 ··· tes.html

Long time overdue, the best online file checker just got better
»www.virustotal.com/

siljaline
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Kudos for the hard-working and nice folks at MBAM.
redwolfe_98
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"malwarebytes" is not an antivirus program and, so, it should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal"..

the same with "superantispyware".. it,too, should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal" since, like "malwarebytes", it is not an antivirus program..

these programs only have a miniscule list of definitions for a miniscule list of malware-samples.. the chances of their ever flagging anything, at "virustotal", other than third-party cookies, is miniscule..

Snowy
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said by redwolfe_98:

these programs only have a miniscule list of definitions for a miniscule list of malware-samples.. the chances of their ever flagging anything, at "virustotal", other than third-party cookies, is miniscule..

Assuming that's a fair analysis, what is the harm or downside to having the additional scanner?

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I tend to agree, the more that scans and checks, the more chance you have of seeing a detection not otherwise picked up - there are just too many daily malwares that most companies are having a hard time keeping up with. We need every bit of help available to us.

Thumbs up for the continued reviewing and updating of this free service to the community. Heaven help us if they decide to remove product or the service altogether, then I'd be on the complaining list.

rcdailey
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While neither Malwarebytes nor Superantispyware are anti-virus programs, it seems to me that it is up to Virustotal to decide what scanners to include, even if some are limited in their scope.

siljaline
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This is all the information that is available at this time.
How MBAM were vetted to the VT family may never be disclosed.
More information may be forthcoming.

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said by redwolfe_98:

"malwarebytes" is not an antivirus program and, so, it should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal"..

the same with "superantispyware".. it,too, should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal" since, like "malwarebytes", it is not an antivirus program..

these programs only have a miniscule list of definitions for a miniscule list of malware-samples.. the chances of their ever flagging anything, at "virustotal", other than third-party cookies, is miniscule..

quote:
VirusTotal is a free service that analyzes suspicious files and URLs and facilitates the quick detection of viruses, worms, trojans, and all kinds of malware.
Hmmm... seems to me that there's more to VirusTotal than simply what the name suggests. The addition of Malwarebytes to VirusTotal.com is a welcomed one. The same can be said for SUPERAntiSpyware.

beck
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I agree, I'm glad MBAM is included in virustotal now.

La Luna
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I agree, I see this as a good thing with no down side, FWIW.

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said by redwolfe_98:

"malwarebytes" is not an antivirus program and, so, it should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal".. ...

these programs only have a miniscule list of definitions for a miniscule list of malware-samples.. the chances of their ever flagging anything, at "virustotal", other than third-party cookies, is miniscule..

FYI, MBAM does not detect / remove cookies...

On the other hand, it certainly does a very good job of detecting 0-day malware, and its huge and rapidly increasing database (6, usually more, updates per day) includes all kinds of malware currently in the wild.

I should know, because I download and test a LOT of malware on a daily basis, and I can tell you for a fact that MBAM does an admirable job, even compared to a number of "full fledged" antivirus engines currently used by VT...

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said by redwolfe_98:

"malwarebytes" is not an antivirus program and, so, it should not be included in the list of programs at "virustotal"..
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these programs only have a miniscule list of definitions for a miniscule list of malware-samples.. the chances of their ever flagging anything, at "virustotal", other than third-party cookies, is miniscule..

Wow that is terrible.

Just a FYI MBAM does detect cookies so in your opinion it must be even more worthless.

I personally almost got stung by driveby download a few hours ago(I really need to update Acrobat reader) but visiting a 3rd party file hosting site i think one of the banner ads was serving a exploit.

MBAM realtime protection quarantined this file which tried to run from my temp folder.
»www.virustotal.com/file/ ··· 4357626/
Googling the filename and location confirms it is highly suspect and associated with a lot of trojans installs.Heck it was even the first time that file had been uploaded to VirusTotal.

I have emailed it to all the AV companies that i have submission address for so hope they create detections in a timely manner.

Personally my own experience and subsequent opinion of MBAM is very bi-polar to yours. It has often fixed computers where AV's fail so in my opinion VirusTotal is definetly a much improved service for the addition of Malwarebytes.

YMMV but "minniscule chance" of detection just pwned the AV's at their own game

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A question: Do you folks use the website blocking feature of MBAM? I've got the FileSystem Protection on, but it seemed to me the website feature slowed browsing down.

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MBAM is known to not only slow browser, but slow an entire system. It is rated as being quite heavy on a PC, and is one reason why I have removed it. Also in nearly 3 years of using it, it hasn't caught anything my normal AV didn't so I don't really see the need for it and find my license for it pretty useless.
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I am using the website blocking feature of MBAM Pro and do not notice any difference in browsing speed. With the differences in computers, loaded software, and internet connections, everyone clearly needs to test things for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether any slowdown is acceptable. Depending on whatever other security software you are running, MBAM's website feature may not add much to your online safety anyway.

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"Didn't work for me" != "Will not work for you"
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said by TonyKlein:

I should know, because I download and test a LOT of malware on a daily basis, and I can tell you for a fact that MBAM does an admirable job, even compared to a number of "full fledged" antivirus engines currently used by VT...

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Plus One. I totally agree with Tonykline assessment. MBAM prides itself on detecting in the wild threats. If you submit a threat that is more than six months old chances are they will not include the definition in their data base. That may seem risky to some but why detect the I LOVE YOU worm from May of 2000. There are exceptions but the truth is most threats are short lived.

»Security Cleanup FAQ »Mandatory Steps Before Requesting Assistance includes MBAM in their mandatory steps as it does an admirable job of removal. That can't be said of a number of main line AV's. Look around and you will find it used by a number of clean up forums for good reason. They have a few false positives but it has never hosed a system I have run it on.

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said by DownTheShore:

A question: Do you folks use the website blocking feature of MBAM? I've got the FileSystem Protection on, but it seemed to me the website feature slowed browsing down.

I have all features (including website blocking) of MBAM Pro enabled. I can't say I've noticed a slow down due to that enabled feature under the two browser I use; IE9 + Opera 12.11: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1.
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I don't really see the need for it and find my license for it pretty useless.

You should then give it away as a gift to someone who would benefit from a free license.

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Lest we forget, VirusTotal is a subsidiary of Google.

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said by chachazz:

Lest we forget, VirusTotal is a subsidiary of Google.

Ahh, but according to an ancient Chinese and Arabic proverb: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend..."

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said by chachazz:

Lest we forget, VirusTotal is a subsidiary of Google.

As VT's "jcanto" said a while ago:

"We're the same team, in the same location (Malaga), doing the same stuff we've been doing for 10 years. What we have now is access to far more resources, and what is very important, good defenses against attacks. I don't know if you guys remember what happened to us with DDoS attacks last summer until we moved our interface to GAE."

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A wise PR man from Google once said:
you don't have to be a potential acquisition for us to work with you.

DownTheShore
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Thanks to those of you who answered my question. Much appreciated.

siljaline
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Tony -
Noted at Wilders:
»press.malwarebytes.org/2 ··· g-safer/

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Yup, I saw that article
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Whoops, involuntary post...

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I use MBAM sporadically, but when it is running I have not noticed any difference in browsing or system-wise then when it is not.

This is with both a modest i5-750 & an all but antiquated e4300.

Oh, & I am glad that VT will now have Malwarebytes results included.