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R2
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[WIN8] Biggest gripe about Win 8...

Where is the big red X to stop these programs??? So many things - the Default PDF program and the Default music program don't have a red X in the corner to shut them down!! And honestly I cannot find that red X anywhere!!! That is REALLY annoying!!!!

Riamen
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Easiest way to close Modern UI apps, move the mouse cursor to the top of the screen until it changes to a hand, click and drag the cursor to the bottom of the screen.



OverBurn

join:2004-02-21
Greenwood, IN

reply to R2
That's one of my gripes too, the list is very long though, Win8 is a steaming pile.

If you start IE, for example, from the god awful start up screen there seems to be no good way of shutting it down. If you open up the task manager, programs will still be running.



RazzyW8

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reply to R2
What Riamen said, it's like closing a window



Freddy
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reply to R2
All,

Another way to close an app is to return to the Start screen (press the Windows key). At the Start screen, move your mouse pointer to the top left corner of the monitor. This action will pop out a side bar with a thumb nail size image of the open app. You then right click on the thumbnail size app and select close, (using a mouse, non touchscreen).

I've used this method a lot.

Freddy



Hall
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Dayton, OH
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reply to OverBurn

said by OverBurn:

If you start IE, for example, from the god awful start up screen there seems to be no good way of shutting it down. If you open up the task manager, programs will still be running.

Sounds like Windows isn't closing the program or app, i.e. the process, just closing the "window".

OZO
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reply to R2
Have you tried Alt+F4?



Kramer
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reply to Riamen
That works well with your fingers, but with a mouse in Metro it is like a constant treasure hunt.


Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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What default PDF program? What default music program? Windows Media Player isn't there really. I didn't know there was a default PDF program. Fx has PDF built in now but I am still using Fx 10 ESR. There is a new ESR version (just came out - Fx 17) and it has builtin PDF but I haven't upgraded yet...I need to figure out Win 8 first...don't need to have to figure out a year's upgrade on Fx yet.

I have a red X upper right corner on Fx 10 ESR.

I have a red X upper right corner on IE 10 and anything that needs to be closed. Get off Metro and stay on the desktop. Delete most of the tiles on Metro. Don't use IE from Metro but from desktop, same with other programs. That Metro garbage updates automatically. If you value your privacy, get rid of those tiles. Win 8 will, unfortunately, add programs that you install as tiles on that Metro page. But you can mostly ignore all that and surely Microsoft will be forced to give desktop users a way to completely turn off Metro...if not third party will step in...in fact, I think Classic Shell does this. I have refrained from installing Classic Shell yet but I probably will eventually.
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JohnInSJ
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said by R2:

Where is the big red X to stop these programs??? So many things - the Default PDF program and the Default music program don't have a red X in the corner to shut them down!! And honestly I cannot find that red X anywhere!!! That is REALLY annoying!!!!

no need to shut down a metro app - they are managed apps, the OS will kill them if it needs ram.

If you must be in control and you are not on a touch device, Alt-F4 terminates them, just like desktop apps.
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Mele20
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Yeah, they are MANAGED APPLICATIONS which spy on you. You'd be crazy to not shut all of them down permanently. USE THE DESKTOP not garbage, spying Metro crap. Don't buy Surface, don't buy any Apple products either.
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When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson


SipSizzurp
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Houston, TX
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said by R2:

Where is the big red X to stop these programs???

If you switch to the desktop while the metro app is running you can then point the mouse to the upper left corner of the desktop and a thumbnail of the running Metro app will appear in that corner. You can right click that thumbnail for the option to close the app.


JohnInSJ
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said by Mele20:

Yeah, they are MANAGED APPLICATIONS which spy on you.

You really do live in a scary world, don't you? They don't spy on you. Now, Google is spying on you, since that's their business model.

So no Google, no Apple, no Microsoft. Why aren't you running Linux again?
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Mike
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Repositories are ran by the NSA, obviously.



Freddy
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Arlington, VA

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Mele20 & All,

Windows Reader is the default PDF reader, uses the new Metro-style interface, and works with PDFs opened from Windows Explorer. My understanding is that the "Reader" only works with the Metro Internet explorer, which doesn't allow plug-ins (for Adobe Reader), so don't throw away your Adobe PDF Reader for use with the desktop version of Internet Explorer.

Also, both the Reader and the Windows Media Player can be found in the All Apps screen. See my image of that screen (the two Apps are circled in red).

You can pin the media player to the task bar on your desktop. Also, you can put a shortcut on your desktop by locating the .exe file on the C drive, right clicking it and selecting the send to desktop as a shortcut option.

Freddy


RazzyW8

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reply to Freddy
Yeah that's what I do also


Mele20
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reply to Freddy

Re: [WIN8] Biggest gripe about Win 8...

I got rid of all those tiles. I would never use IE from Metro. I tried that ...HORRIBLE experience. The only tiles I have now are programs I have installed that get put there. But that is a horrible place for them. I have tried to avoid installing Classic Shell but I need my programs where they should be ...above start and in nice, neat columns where I can easily find the one I want. I want nothing to do with Metro...except I doubt installing Classic Shell will get rid of the need for that three year old childish "Charmy" bar.

I use a Linux PDF reader that has been ported to Windows on my XP machine. It's really good. I have never read PDF in a browser because of security issues. I always download to disk and read and haven't used Adobe's reader probably in 7-8 years. When I upgrade to the latest Fx ESR version it has a builtin Mozilla developed PDF reader. I will use it. It will also run on Sea Monkey I think but Sea Monkey is not currently supported for Win 8 so best use Fx.

I have a desktop...a NEW desktop. I believe in desktops and screw Microsoft for trying to ruin desktops. I am fine with Metro for mobile devices but Microsoft should not have attacked all desktop users like they have done. I saw an ad last night on TV ....ergonomics are thrown out by Microsoft...they will get sued for that...and Microsoft was promoting use of a desktop with a touch screen. The user was stretching their arm way out, leaning forward, straining arm, shoulder, neck and back muscles in order to do touch screen on a desktop! That is awful. Desktops, if set up correctly, are fully ergonomic but change your monitor to a touch screen and you will end up with a lot worse than carpal tunnel syndrome.
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SipSizzurp
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Houston, TX
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said by Mele20:

...except I doubt installing Classic Shell will get rid of the need for that three year old childish "Charmy" bar.

It does eliminate the need for it. Classic Shell makes W8 appear and function indistinguishably from Windows 7.

Why haven't you tried it yet ? It is a small light weight program that you can toggle on and off, and completely un-install from "Programs and Features" in the control panel if you want. You are just poking your own eyes out by not installing it.

Mele20
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Gee, if it gets rid of "Charmy" and that gigantic black clock that keep popping up if I so much as move my mouse a smidgeon off the vertical scroll bar (but that never appear if I actually require "Charmy") well...guess I should try it.

Maybe it will make Gadwin Print Screen more compatible with Win 8. It keeps popping up when I hit backspace more than once quickly or hit some other keys. (Kidding...or wishful thinking...I doubt Classic Shell would have anything to do with Gadwin Print Screen problems. It may be this low form keyboard too as that is like typing on concrete and I am making more errors than usual).
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