 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | reply to DrDrew
Re: [Speed] Congested Comcast Peering with Akamai, Google in Mid DrDrew is right. When I do tracerts *to* the edge they travel through an xe interface. |
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 JohnInSJPremium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA Reviews:
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| reply to johnnn said by johnnn:I'm using anycast (75.75.75.75), and my router doesn't support IPv6. Try using comcast's DNS. Just for grins. -- My place : »www.schettino.us |
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 EGThe wings of lovePremium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ kudos:9 1 edit | reply to depster FWIW, just a point. As Dr.Drew stated, it's the same physical router. This data needs to also be examined when evaluating the rDNS info on hops;
te-8-2-ur02 xe-7-0-sur01
Even though the IP address is the same, the slot, port, and ring data is different.
Some examples of some meanings;
Some examples;
ge = gigabit ethernet.
te / xe= ten gigabit ethernet.
p, po, pos = Packet Over Sonet (an OC-3 or faster connection).
XE / TE = Juniper / Cisco 10GigE Interface be / ae = Cisco Bundle Ethernet / Juniper Aggregate Ethernet
he = hundred gigabit ethernet.
1-1, 1-2, 1-11, 6-1, 9-1, 2-2, etc. = slot and port.
ar01, cr01, ur01
User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | EG, you're the best. |
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 EGThe wings of lovePremium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ kudos:9 | I doubt that but thanks for your kind words !  |
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 | reply to JohnInSJ That is Comcast's anycast DNS |
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| reply to EG said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI |  New interface on the |  KS route |  CA route |  Peak time comparison |
There appear to be significant changes underway. One of the routers hostnames has reappeared, and I'm on a different interface. A hop prior to Pontiac has been eliminated from the previous configuration.
There was likely some sort of maintenance window on Friday morning as evidenced by the smokeping graphs attached (this makes sense, as it corresponds with the lowest utilization period for the college town I'm in). Comparing the ICMP performance for peak windows between this week and last, there's been a significant improvement. |
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| reply to nate1234 said by nate1234:That is Comcast's anycast DNS Perhaps using one from here »www.whatsmydns.net/dns/usa/comcast.html
Michigan
Primary DNS: 68.87.77.130
Secondary DNS: 68.87.72.130
Primary IPv6 DNS: 2001:558:1016:C:68:87:77:130
Secondary IPv6 DNS: 2001:558:100E:4:68:87:72:130
Would yield different CDN entry points? -- My place : »www.schettino.us |
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 | reply to johnnn I didn't go through the entire thread thoroughly, but wanted to add an idea.....
I had the same beef with my 105/20 service. I eventually figured out that the cause was using DNS servers other than Comcasts. This resulted in me being connected to the wrong CDN sites. I switched to the Comcast DNS servers being offered to me via DHCP, and my download speeds jumped dramatically. So if you are using alternate DNS, consider giving your primary/secondary Comcast DNS servers a try. |
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| reply to EG said by EG:ge = gigabit ethernet.
te / xe= ten gigabit ethernet.
p, po, pos = Packet Over Sonet (an OC-3 or faster connection).
XE / TE = Juniper / Cisco 10GigE Interface be / ae = Cisco Bundle Ethernet / Juniper Aggregate Ethernet
he = hundred gigabit ethernet.
1-1, 1-2, 1-11, 6-1, 9-1, 2-2, etc. = slot and port.
ar01, cr01, ur01
User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. holy cow man. Thanks for this information. I know it's pretty trivial for non-comcast network engineers, but it really helps add some light into where my packets go when they leave town.  |
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 | reply to whfsdude said by whfsdude:said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? Maybe Switched User Ring? |
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 NetFixerFrom my cold dead handsPremium join:2004-06-24 The Boro Reviews:
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That is exactly what I do for the forwarding servers in my in-house DNS server. I chose the primary servers for Atlanta and Chicago because most of my routes go through either Atlanta or Chicago.

C:\>dig -x 68.87.68.162
; <<>> DiG 9.9.2 <<>> -x 68.87.68.162
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62426
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1280
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;162.68.87.68.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
162.68.87.68.in-addr.arpa. 1196 IN PTR nrcns.s3woodstock.ga.atlanta.comcast.net.
;; Query time: 31 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.9.2#53(192.168.9.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jan 27 13:11:54 2013
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 108
C:\>dig -x 68.87.72.130
; <<>> DiG 9.9.2 <<>> -x 68.87.72.130
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26004
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1280
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;130.72.87.68.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
130.72.87.68.in-addr.arpa. 6112 IN PTR nrcns.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net.
130.72.87.68.in-addr.arpa. 6112 IN PTR chic-cns.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net.
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.9.2#53(192.168.9.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jan 27 13:12:24 2013
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 125
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 makazePremium join:2004-02-23 USA | reply to depster said by depster:said by whfsdude:said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? Maybe Switched User Ring? Nah it's a Super UR. In most areas it's a juniper with multiple AR connections for redundancy. |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | So based on the info in this thread, the changes in throughput (things are much improved), and the routing changes I've observed, it looks like Comcast hooked my neighborhood's CMTS (and likely all of wannarbor) into a Super UR whereas before it routed through two regular 10GigE URs on its way to the AR in Pontiac. |
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