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Mele20
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Re: [WIN8] Biggest gripe about Win 8...

said by Shootist:

said by R2:

Shootist: "when you close a window you are working in the program itself Does Not Close. It stays running in the background until you Quit the program."

I didn't like it back then, and I don't think I'll like it now...

If you are asking about Win 8 then yes with the Metro Apps just making the app disappear from the screen does not close the underlying program. It is still running.

Also Win 8 doesn't really shut down. It goes into some state of sleep/hibernation when you think you are turning off your computer. That is how they can get it to boot faster. If you really do shut it down, and there are ways to do that, the Boot times are much better then Win 7

I got that crappy Win 8 PDF reader closed just now by mousing to the upper left corner of the monitor, and clicking on the X on that thumbnail of the PDF reader open to the article I read last night. It's completely closed now. But I don't want to INCREASE mouse clicks ....that just invites more chronic hand problems..,just as the extra number of keyboard strokes on Win 8 does the same.

I disagree that boot times are fast in Win 8. I have the OS on an SSD but it boots more slowly than my almost 7 year old XP computer. It does shut down fully. It never sleeps because I don't allow that in power options. That is another crappy thing in Win 8...but I recall that as crappy in Wiin 7 beta (never had Win 7 except during public beta). I prefer Power Options in XP Pro.
Shootist
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Shootist

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On a Desktop system I don't want ANY Power Options. I want it to run FULL POWER all the time. So I agree with you on those setting. On my notebook I use them for longer battery life.
dave
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dave

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said by Shootist:

On a Desktop system I don't want ANY Power Options. I want it to run FULL POWER all the time.

What's the point of running the null thread at max frequency?
SipSizzurp
Fo' Shizzle
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join:2005-12-28
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SipSizzurp

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said by dave:

What's the point of running the null thread at max frequency?

No delays, stuttering or choking when you throw it a big job.
dave
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said by SipSizzurp:

said by dave:

What's the point of running the null thread at max frequency?

No delays, stuttering or choking when you throw it a big job.

You mean you're sensitive to the few microseconds it takes to uprev the CPU freq?

"Stuttering or choking" sounds like nonsense to me.

JohnInSJ
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Aptos, CA

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said by dave:

said by Shootist:

On a Desktop system I don't want ANY Power Options. I want it to run FULL POWER all the time.

What's the point of running the null thread at max frequency?

You can still set the power options for the CPU minimum to 100% - that will keep your power company happy and your fan well exercised.
dave
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said by JohnInSJ:

said by dave:

said by Shootist:

On a Desktop system I don't want ANY Power Options. I want it to run FULL POWER all the time.

What's the point of running the null thread at max frequency?

You can still set the power options for the CPU minimum to 100% - that will keep your power company happy and your fan well exercised.

Sure, but my question is why do that? When you don't need the CPU cycles, why insist on clocking it at full rate? Wait until you actually have the CPU demand.
SipSizzurp
Fo' Shizzle
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said by dave:

"Stuttering or choking" sounds like nonsense to me.

It was a problem in older hardware generations and I figured that is what Shootist was talking about. Starting with the Core2duo era I've been leaving power management enabled in most cases.

JohnInSJ
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said by dave:

Sure, but my question is why do that? When you don't need the CPU cycles, why insist on clocking it at full rate? Wait until you actually have the CPU demand.

Yep, that's the reason for the second half of my comment, where I get all snarky.