 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle 1 edit | [WIN7] Computer shut down unexpectedly Event Log |
Dell Inspiron laptop Win 7 64-bit
The power cord was disconnected, but the battery was at 80%.
Without warning the screen went black and computer shut down. (As if battery had just been pulled out).
I plugged in power cord before trying to restart. It gave me the same alert screen at bootup that I'd have gotten if the battery had drained and it shut itself down without powering down windows. (black screen with "Start Windows Normally" as the bottom choice) I expected to see that the battery had drained (though I hadn't received any warnings that it was low before shutdown) but was surprised to see battery is at 80%.
I checked the Win Event log and it was critical event code 41, which is the same as on prior occasions where the battery had died. I saw a number of instances of this Event 41 "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly." (Though it never before shut down in the middle of using it...unless it was left on, inadvertently became unplugged, and just drained to a shutdown)
The battery has been OK and I normally use the computer with the power cord plugged in.
So it's the first time it ever just shut itself down before the battery had drained.
Here's a copy of the event log around that critical shutdown event. -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 | Sounds entirely like a hardware issue since it should have remained on, and I've pulled the power plug from many a laptop while they were running without hardware power failure. |
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | Thanks. yes I pull the power cord out many times a day while it's running and it keeps on going...just did it 5 times with no problem. this happened while the power cord was already out....not sure why.
Would the other Events around the same time indicate why? I don't understand their meanings. |
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| Looking at those errors and your story had me wondering if the LAN (ethernet) chipset was having troubles as well which would point to a motherboard problem.
Might be worth talking to someone local if you can. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | Thanks. Are there any things I can do to check on this through logs or diagnostics? |
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 KramerPremium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 | reply to koam There might be a way to recalibrate the battery. What's the exact model? |
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | Insprion N7010 |
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| reply to koam said by koam:Thanks. Are there any things I can do to check on this through logs or diagnostics? Before going any further - create a system restore point and reboot just incase there are problems encountered that cause more concern.
Have you updated to the latest drivers off DELL?
The following is possibly suggestive of a router/computer conflict, possible IPv6 conflict, the need for an updated Ethernet driver possibly, hardware failing. There could be a few things.
If you haven't the latest drivers for the Ethernet chipset, download and disconnect from the network while it updates. »www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/···17-n7010 If you are not sure use the DELL utility on the laptop or the sites detection for drivers.
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For the DHCP, DNS and NetBT errors see the following articles if they persist.
DHCP client event ID 1002: While the link is for sever 2008, I'd see not difference for the network settings for you. »technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr···10).aspx
DNS client Event ID 1014: »social.technet.microsoft.com/wik···ent.aspx
NetBT Event ID 6008: »www.microsoft.com/technet/suppor···rc=NetBT
After checking you have the latest drivers: First, can you reboot from the computer to the router and see if the errors go away. Second, Try the DHCP resolve and verify functions in the first link, maybe check if IPv6 can be turned off all together on the router and your computer. Does the errors go away?
These are what I'd look at first before anything else if you have the confidence in your own work. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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 izyPremium,MVM join:2000-09-21 endless loop kudos:2 | reply to koam Run the Dell hardware diagnostics. Press F12 at boot to access. |
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| reply to koam I'd suggest you call Dell tech support on this one. Either the battery is dying and the computer is indicating it has more capacity then it really does or some re-calibration effort needs to be taken that Dell might be able to direct you on. A lot of Dell batteries have a test button on them with a series of lights that indicate the charge state. I would suggest if present, you push that when the shut down occurs. If the lights are all out or only one LED lights, then your battery is not as healthy as you would think. In any event chasing other hardware possibilities seems pointless unless you know the battery is healthy. Everything is fine when plugged in... right? In my opinion the only thing going on here is a disconnect between what the computer thinks the battery charge state is and what the actual charge state is. No big worries. |
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 | I like your KISS (keep it simple silly) response to a lot of your replies here.
Sometimes the basic steps are the fix. |
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 KramerPremium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 | Thanks... going to move this thread over to the hardware people, because whatever is wrong here, you probably can't blame on Microsoft. |
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 | reply to koam To add to the battery calibration, try running HWMonitor. It should give you the wear level as a percentage.
I'm not sure if all of the Dell batteries with built-in power gauges do this (the one on my Inspiron E1705 does), but if yours has the gauge, try holding the button for 3 seconds. A quick press tells you the current charge, while holding it for a few seconds should tell you the wear level (IIRC, 5 lights=40% wear/recommended replacement). -- KI6RIT |
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | This battery doesn't have LEDs. THanks for the link to HWMonitor.
While that one-time shutdown seemed like it was a battery pull or battery issue, I haven't had much trouble from the battery.
I'll explain more in next post.
Here's the image of HWMonitor screen. -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | reply to norwegian Thanks for the link to Dell driver tools. The Dell analyzer only found one driver it recommended.... it was a package for bluetooth (didn't know how to even use the bluetooth before, so thanks.) It didn't find any updates for the Ethernet chipset. I haven't had any further issues with connectivity/DHCP, etc. |
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | reply to izy I ran the diagnostics F12 at boot and the initial pass ran fine. It then asked me if I wanted to do more memory tests and estimated that it would take 30 mins. It worked along for what seemed like much more than 30 mins....more like 100 mins, but it seemed to be doing the work, with the screen continually updating and the word "Pass" after each group.
When it finally stopped it said Disk Error. The diagnostics seemed to be done, but then..... when trying to boot into Windows, it gave me an error telling me to get my Windows Installation Disk to repair. It would not reboot into windows. It mentioned disk corruption, recommending chkdsk. I used my System Repair Disk. and it booted into Windows.
I had checked and it had already created a System Restore point the night before for a Windows Update overnight. (Note the computer ran all night and did not reboot and I never saw the balloon notification that Windows Updates had been applied in the morning..all my apps were still running in the morning...and all this was before the shutdown event in the OP that came without warning). So I didn't create a new Restore point since there had been one hours earlier.
I created a System Image to an external drive, and backed up files to another external drive.
Since the Windows Repair it has booted into Windows OK and I have not restarted. I'm afraid to do the chkdsk because I think that may worsen the situation. I really don't need this computer to crap out on me right now as it's the only one I have. I hope that the System Image will be of use if the system drive fails.
The hard drive is SSD. Device manager: Hard Drives: 2 items 1) Generic Multi-card USB Device 2) INTEL SSDSA1MH080G1GN
The computer has been working fine. I'm a little afraid to reboot....don't want to get stuck. Also afraid to run diagnostics....solely because I don't want to get stuck without a computer. (When things ease up, I'll geek out on it.) In any case, I hope the system image created after the repair will be of value and not corrupted.
Any ideas of what's going on? -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | reply to Kramer Thanks. See the Hardware Monitor results above.
Please see also the weird situation I had after running diagnostics above. |
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | reply to norwegian Please see what happened when I ran diagnostics above.
When you say reboot from the computer to the router, what do you mean? (I have power cycled router, modem and other devices in recent days... the router also automatically reboots itself at 4AM daily).
The DHCP client list for the router shows each device with its own IP.
I haven't had the issue of shutdown happen again, though I normally keep it plugged in which might prevent me from seeing it happen.
Also I've run SAS, MWBAM, & Avast full scans with no problems reported. -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 koamPink PeckerPremium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle | reply to koam
Here's the log of Critical errors.
I can't say if every one of these 41s are when I left the computer unplugged and on and it drained battery and shutdown (and that has happened lots of times)....but I only saw it shutdown without having the battery drained the very last time.
I've changed the Critical Battery Level action from Sleep to Shutdown, as it seems when it should be sleeping, it winds up crashing if unplugged. -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 | reply to koam
 Normal battery |
If HWMonitor is anywhere near correct with the battery capacity, you have a big problem there. It's reporting it as somewhere around the capacity of a smartphone battery. 4 Wh is tiny. Maybe try leaving it open while on battery and see how the current capacity value drops.
I've attached a picture of the readout on my E1705's battery. It's a 1.5 year old 80 Wh/9-cell battery. The wear/charge level reading on it is a bit screwy, I've tried recalibrating the battery a few times but it always shows something like that. Oh well . It was spot-on with the wear level of the original battery. -- KI6RIT |
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