| Bell won't let TSI port my number? Called up TSI this weekend to inquire about their phone service (real phone line, not TekTalk). After giving my home phone number, I was told that my number could not be ported (Bell won't let them). This restriction only applies to a real phone line, I can still port my number for TekTalk.
I'm confused, I thought LNP is mandated by the CRTC? And why would Bell do this? If I can't port my number over to a competitor which is leasing their line (i.e. Bell still gets a cut), then I'll just go to voip.ms and Bell will get nothing. |
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kovy
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kudos:8 | reply to achalupka
It's not Bell, it's Teksavvy that has a stop to it. |
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| said by kovy:It's not Bell, it's Teksavvy that has a stop to it.
Forced by BHELL  |
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kovy
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kudos:8 | said by Crowbar1:said by kovy:It's not Bell, it's Teksavvy that has a stop to it.
Forced by BHELL That's not what Teksavvy said... |
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| Do you think TSI would not want to sell him home phone if they could ? |
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kudos:2 | no that's what we said... |
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kovy
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said by Crowbar1:Do you think TSI would not want to sell him home phone if they could ?
Yes tektalk, no prob. But they have block the Bell POTS line transfer for a while and have said it was their decision to do so.
See this topic, »C'mon TekSavvy - Bring back your POTS offering
Look at what TSI Andre wrote. |
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dm1336
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Scarborough, ON | reply to achalupka
So... Port to Tek Talk then maybe port to Tek's POTS after a couple months? *shrugs* |
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 andybPremium
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kudos:1 | Doesnt work.Bell will block it anyway if you come from tektalk as they still own the number as its from their "pool" of numbers. |
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| reply to achalupka
Port the number to voip.ms or Wind for a bit
Then port it to TSI
Just make sure that's possible with all the parties involved. |
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| said by MaynardKrebs:Port the number to voip.ms or Wind for a bit
Then port it to TSI
Just make sure that's possible with all the parties involved.
Or, just port it to voip.ms and leave it there. Buy beer with the money saved.
I don't see why users need to do a hop skip and jump around TSI's agreement with Bell. No offense, and sorry but, fuck 'em.
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Vancouver, BC | reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:Port the number to voip.ms or Wind for a bit
Then port it to TSI
IIRC the problem remains regardless of whether the number is a transfer from Bell or a port in from another provider if the phone number itself has a NXX originally assigned to Bell. |
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| Shouldn't matter The numbers belong to us the customers not to The Incumbents or phone providers.. we should be allowed to port em how and where we want to.
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kudos:8 | said by morisato:Shouldn't matter The numbers belong to us the customers not to The Incumbents or phone providers.. we should be allowed to port em how and where we want to.
I don't think the numbers belong to the customer...
Anyway, the problem is between Teksavvy and Bell... nothing else here. |
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| said by kovy:said by morisato:Shouldn't matter The numbers belong to us the customers not to The Incumbents or phone providers.. we should be allowed to port em how and where we want to.
I don't think the numbers belong to the customer... Anyway, the problem is between Teksavvy and Bell... nothing else here. As of a few years back, they technically do and that is why it is much easier (minus this example) to port numbers between carriers than it was even 5-6 years ago.
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said by dillyhammer:said by MaynardKrebs:Port the number to voip.ms or Wind for a bit
Then port it to TSI
Just make sure that's possible with all the parties involved.
Or, just port it to voip.ms and leave it there. Buy beer with the money saved. I don't see why users need to do a hop skip and jump around TSI's agreement with Bell. No offense, and sorry but, fuck 'em. Mike Nothing to say sorry about, end of the day it's true... voip.ms is great, i use voipdiscount.com $10 get's me unlimited for 120 days and then takes from the $10 i deposited. Each year i pay about $20.
Another good option i'm amazed many do not choose is freephoneline.ca or .com forget which.
Free #, $50 up front for an ATA setup and you never pay again unless you need to call specific areas.
Sorry TSI, end of day POTS is bell and i honestly wish you guys would just drop them from POTS line at least. You'd make them too happy if you dumped them altogether, so let's not do that |
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kovy
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kudos:8 | reply to d4m1r
said by d4m1r:said by kovy:said by morisato:Shouldn't matter The numbers belong to us the customers not to The Incumbents or phone providers.. we should be allowed to port em how and where we want to.
I don't think the numbers belong to the customer... Anyway, the problem is between Teksavvy and Bell... nothing else here. As of a few years back, they technically do and that is why it is much easier (minus this example) to port numbers between carriers than it was even 5-6 years ago. Not technically... more like practically... since you don't really own that number, it just fells that way. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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2 edits | reply to achalupka
said by achalupka:....I'm confused, I thought LNP is mandated by the CRTC? And why would Bell do this? If I can't port my number over to a competitor which is leasing their line (i.e. Bell still gets a cut), then I'll just go to voip.ms and Bell will get nothing.
The way in which it was explained in one or two other recent threads is that in this case, TSI is a DIRECT RESELLER of a Bell service, so the number is not being ported anyway, in the sense about which the CRTC has made those LNP rules.
As for porting in a number which was ORIGINALLY a Bell landline number but is currently with another provider, I'm not sure whether or not anyone has actually TRIED to have that done (or is just making assumptions), and whether such a person has posted anything here about how THAT went.
TSI Marc has commented in those other threads, and what I personally took from his comments is that Bell has raised the price to TSI to do that 'non-porting' type of POTS service transfer (and/or for the service itself) if TSI wants it done on more than so many numbers per so much period of time, and that TSI has chosen to limit to US how many because their costs went up.
I have no clear proof of this, but it 'walks like a duck', and makes a quacking sound.
Another factor ( ALSO money-based - surprise, surprise ! ) is that TSI now has a VoIP service to promote, and is indirectly doing so by handling things as they currently are. |
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These may be some of those other threads :
»C'mon TekSavvy - Bring back your POTS offering |
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