 pcdebbRIP dadkinsPremium
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Brandon, FL
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1 edit | [419] my brother got a check today..... my brother woke me up earlier than i'm used to because he was all excited about what he received in the mail today. As bad as he could have used the money, my good training made him suspicious enough to make a call and find out what the real deal was. I'm a little confused tho. All he received was the check. There was no letter stating he won a billion dollars, etc, it was just the check. I guess they are getting sloppy or just lazy, or expect people will just try to cash the check anyway. I'm also a little concerned that the package had to be signed for. My brother called the number on the envelope and got no answer, not sure if that was a good idea either.
I'm posting this more for tracking and FYI purposes.
the "sender":
bafil ali
110 great st
san diego ca 92101
619-398-0707
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 DanHoPremium
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Seattle, WA | No such place as 110 great st in San Diego as far as I can tell. |
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garys_2kPremium
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Farmington, MI | reply to pcdebb
You had him call the credit union and confirm it's fake? |
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 Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP
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kudos:18 | reply to pcdebb
I see that the check was issued by Money Gram.
Who have you contacted so far? |
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pcdebbRIP dadkinsPremium
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Brandon, FL
kudos:4 | reply to pcdebb
He contacted the bank and they told him it was fake. Who exactly he contacted I'm not sure since there a lot of info on the check
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pcdebbRIP dadkinsPremium
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I was on my way out to work when I finally got a look at everything, but I was able to see that the address was made up, and usps tracking says it originated from Ohio. I got no hits on the name so I can assume that's made up too.
What phone calls can be made at this point? I'm sure he wasn't the only one to get this, and someone thinks Christmas came early 
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 SnowymIRC unix.ro UnderNetPremium
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| said by pcdebb:What phone calls can be made at this point? I'm sure he wasn't the only one to get this, and someone thinks Christmas came early
You should call your local postal inspector.
Their easy to talk with & they will be interested. |
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the phone number belongs to HR Beer Conpany Inc. in San Diego,CA.
So would let them know their phone number is being used in a 419 scam. |
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jp16
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Pepperell, MA | reply to pcdebb
»www.fdic.gov/news/news/SpecialAl···034.html
Looks like an old scam has come back to life... |
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peterboroAvatars are for posersPremium
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Peterborough, ON | reply to pcdebb
said by pcdebb:He contacted the bank and they told him it was fake. I doubt it's fake as it says it a "Official Bank Cheque". Come on, how much more proof do you need of it's authenticity.  |
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peterboroAvatars are for posersPremium
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Peterborough, ON | As check is a verb, as in "I will check on his well being or that was a wicked check the hockey player bestowed in the corners" then they should brush up on the proper use of the King's English. |
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 BloggerJedi PosterPremium
join:2012-10-18 | reply to pcdebb
So what exactly is the scam here? What are the gains to be had by the issuer of the bad check?
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Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP
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kudos:18 | said by Blogger:So what exactly is the scam here? What are the gains to be had by the issuer of the bad check?
None in this case. It was a stupid scammer that left out the scam detail letter.
said by pcdebb:All he received was the check.
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Usually its one of those wire transfer scams. They have the victim cash the check and wired them a portion of the money. Later on, the bank brings fraudulent charges against the victim since they cashed a fake check and money they didn't have while the scammer pockets the money and disappears in anonymity since they typically can not be found. The victim now has a debt and a possible felony on their hands. I almost got caught up in one of these scams but luckily my mother works for a bank so she caught it. |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
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Birmingham, AL
kudos:2 | I just do not understand why they always hold a victim responsible. |
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Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP
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kudos:18 | said by Oleg:I just do not understand why they always hold a victim responsible.
Because the victim has broken the law by depositing a fraudulent check even though they didn't write the check. The victim did withdraw the money from the bank on the account that is in the their name. If the victim were to wait until the check fully clears (up to 15 days) then this type of scam would no longer work and the victim would not end up with a severely overdrawn account.
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said by Oleg:I just do not understand why they always hold a victim responsible.
Who should they hold responsible?
I am pretty sure after their investigation and(if?) they find the "victim" wasn't involved they wouldn't press charges and possibly only take back funds not sent to the scammer.
This type scam isn't new by any stretch, older than widespread Internet usage as a matter of fact.
Too many are blinded by the dollar signs.
Many here are familiar with the Horse Ranch scam. |
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OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
kudos:2 | reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds:said by Oleg:I just do not understand why they always hold a victim responsible.
Because the victim has broken the law by depositing a fraudulent check even though they didn't write the check. The victim did withdraw the money from the bank on the account that is in the their name. If the victim were to wait until the check fully clears (up to 15 days) then this type of scam would no longer work and the victim would not end up with a severely overdrawn account. Right. But what if victim did not know it's a scam?
But JustBurnt has already explained. |
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 scelliNative New YorkerPremium
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said by Oleg:I just do not understand why they always hold a victim responsible.
They don't always hold the victim responsible and it's a gross exaggeration to claim so. However: Here's just one reason why those in the justice system can do so on pretty solid legal ground should the powers that be choose such a course:
Ignorantia juris non excusat
(Latin for: Ignorance of the law does not excuse.)
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