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vue666
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Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

However firearm deaths at 50 year low...as more killers use knives....

»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 ··· 011.html


J E F F
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That's a huge increase! So much for "tough on crime"

I'm usually to the right on these things but things are going too far!
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It's okay. Extra prisons are on their way!


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said by vue666:

However firearm deaths at 50 year low...as more killers use knives....

We need to immediately enact new knife laws and create knife registries. I blame the American knife owning nutjobs and their crazy open knife laws for negatively influencing our citizens!


dirtyjeffer
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35% of homicides were committed with knives, and the increase in knife related deaths accounted for pretty much all of the increase in overall homicides.

why aren't those in support of the gun registry now in favour of a knife registry?...i mean, we (those who oppose the previous gun registry as a useless waste of money) often brought up that parallel, yet the facts are now in.


loosedobbs

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reply to vue666
The news is as shocking as "Edmonton Tops Numbeo Quality Of Life Index, Beats Calgary, Montreal, Toronto And Vancouver".
Wasn't Edmonton Murder capital city of Canada?
And rate is Peterborough, 2.44. Toronto had 52nd homicide day or two before. So that is stabilized like usual.

Another fact among solved cirms:only 15 per cent by a stranger.
"The rates in Winnipeg and Halifax were the highest" Why?

"Metropolitan Winnipeg had the highest number of homicides at 39, as well as the highest rate among major cities, followed by Halifax and Edmonton."

And just remembered Bob Costas NBC support for Gun control. But can not go more as it would be political.


Thane_Bitter
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We need a knife registry Now! /sarcasm

peterboro
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I Caramba!

Peterborough is the 7th most likely city to be deaded by death!
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vue666
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Re: I Caramba!

Wow...TO ranked 14th... It's incredible that smaller cities like Halifax and Winnipeg would have a higher homicide rate then a city the size of Toronto... For it's size TO has to be one of the safest cities in North America....

quote:
»www.news957.com/news/local/artic ··· -in-2011

Winnipeg ranked first with 5.08 homicides per 100,000 people. Edmonton was a close third to Halifax with 4.17 deaths. Toronto ranked 14th behind cities including Saint John, Saskatoon, Gatineau, Vancouver and Victoria.


Three cities in the Atlantic Provinces are in the top ten... :-(

Halifax, Saint John and St John's...


Dones

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Re: Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

I believe it. My sister's boyfriend was stabbed by a 17 year old this year. He died over a stupid argument.


Markie
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#4 this year, we've been first place before and always seem to be up near the top. Hillbillies and Indians, usually knives.
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Hamilton not even in the top 20? Who would have figured!!


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said by ArthurS:

Hamilton not even in the top 20? Who would have figured!!

Hamilton's not the horrible city everyone makes it out to be.
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(topic move) Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

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Re: Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

Far be it for the CBC to make a sensational headline without looking at the statistics, but I think they may have here.

The 598 number for 2011, while higher than for 2010 is STILL lower than the total for 2009 and 2008 which both had over 600.

The number will be variable. It takes more than 2 numbers to gauge a reliable trend.

Want to decide that a 7% year to year jump is statistically significant? Why? But if you do, they FELL by 15% in Ontario.... Rose by 25% in Quebec.
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dirtyjeffer
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also difficult to tell from just the numbers is another fact about London specifically.

for example, last year, London had 2 attempted murders...this year (so far, we are at 8).

»www.lfpress.com/2012/12/04/londo ··· ide-rate
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you
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To me, this is a salient point in the article. Some scary sh!t. It's not always the "thugs" that some of us here are so pre-occupied with...

quote:
Victims typically know their killer. Among solved homicides in 2011, almost half were committed by an acquaintance or friend, one-third by a family member and only 15 per cent by a stranger.

Police reported 89 homicides involving intimate partners in 2011, including 76 female victims and 13 male victims. This resulted in a rate of 0.26 intimate partner homicides per 100,000 population, similar to the rate in recent years.

The rate of intimate partner homicides committed against females increased by 19 per cent in 2011, the third increase in four years. The rate for male victims declined by almost half, hitting the lowest point since data collection began in 1961.
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Markie
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Add one more in 2012 here, knife.
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J E F F
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said by dirtyjeffer:

also difficult to tell from just the numbers is another fact about London specifically.

for example, last year, London had 2 attempted murders...this year (so far, we are at 8).

»www.lfpress.com/2012/12/04/londo ··· ide-rate

From the provided source:

6 so far in 2012
8 in 2011
7 in 2010...

Anyway, safest cities are (over a 5 year period 2006-2011):

1. Sherbrooke, Que. — 0.5

2. Quebec, Que. — 0.6

3. Guelph — 0.7

4. Saguenay, Que. — 0.8

5. St. John’s, N.L. — 0.8

6. Kitchener CMA — 0.9 (tie)

6. St. Catharines-Niagara — 0.9 (tie)
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(topic move) Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

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Can you folks at least try to stay on topic, this is getting old.


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Re: Homicide rates in Canada up 7%

This topic is timely, but for the wrong reason. In a metropolitan area of ~800k (Ontario side), we just had our 6th homicide last week and this morning there's an incident suspected of being the 7th. Few details on today's so far, but last week's was a son setting fire to his wheelchair-bound mother's apartment while she was in it.

Here is a list of the causes of death in the homicides here so far this year: stabbing, shooting, shooting, baseball bat, unspecified, shooting, fire (arson), unknown so far.
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