Topic 'Not new news, but still disturbing...' in forum 'Security' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27790727 en Thu, 23 May 2013 07:00:45 EDT Thu, 23 May 2013 07:00:45 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27818002 --
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When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27811397 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:14:59 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27811178 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27811178 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:16:24 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27811149 A well designed ad will catch my eye. Still doesn't make me want the product.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27811149 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:06:25 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27809095 --
When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27809095 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:29:07 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27807529 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27807529 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:48:54 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27806028 When they come out with opt-out for ads on TVs, will revisit the idea. Or at least an auto-mute. Last time I bought a TV 1995, was asking for such features and told it "wasn't possible".
My childhood dreams that the populace would awaken on the mark of Y2K dashed... 2012? I think we've run out of significant dates of an arbitrary nature. I'm pretty much out of ideas on that one.

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On the plus side once one is hacked and the flood gates open, think of all the fresh new amateur porn that will be available.
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I still have not determined what is in this proposal that benefits the consumer, other than the reasoning that custom advertising is good for the consumer! Have we reached that reality?

The advertisers insist that if they didn't perform their public service, out of the goodness of their hearts, we wouldn't know what to buy.

(And then we might have to be called "people" rather than "consumers").]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27795157 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:21:43 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27795128 said by Icnoble :
I will get one for a bathroom TV and see what happens. This could be fun!


Apple has an app for that...the Ipotty :D

• Complete with audio, visual: Replays on demand.
• Visualization: When you don't have time for all the crap.
• Self cleaning most of the time.
• No trackers or wipers.
• Scheduling and autostart for regularity.
• Auto sync with Icloud: Similar to sewer backups.
• Waste is converted with Bablefish.
• Encrypted DNS with a Google Scraper when you need to search for sheet.

Sarcasm OFF:

Reminds me of the Do Not Track Browser flag that advertisers have chosen to ignore.

said by goalieskates :
I guess the first thing to do is gouge its little eyes and ears out ...


Agreed...What's next? Perhaps a scheme to get the victim to pay for their wonderful service. A little consultation with the Motion Picture and Recording Industry and they could be living their dream.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27795128 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:11:17 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27793108
Also if watching a PPV it would also have a popup....

"It appears another viewer has entered the room, to continue please authorize an additional $2.99"

(I mean the day we get full room sensing the MPAA will gradually adjust their VOD contracts to require per viewer billing.)
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Does this mean if someone does a home invasion while you are watching TV and you blow the bastard away with your Colt 45. you will get an ad for ammo?

Oh as long as they do not partner with MS and have Clippy popup..

"It appears you need to hide a body, would you like suggestions?"

Just be sure the camera picks up the perp actually threatening you... or else that same camera may get you penalized by the cops for unnecessary roughness. It may also serve to route you good trial lawyer ads in case they do.
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Oh as long as they do not partner with MS and have Clippy popup..

"It appears you need to hide a body, would you like suggestions?"
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27792903 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:00:00 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27792030 this one :D
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That said this is all about targeted advertising. Or putting it another way getting the most bang for your (advertising) bucks.

BTW Google (and others) already use targeted ads based on your location, web searches etc. Verizon just wants the same for TV.
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the patent office should reject these. They have no use other than invasion of privacy.

Rejecting the patent does not stop use of the invention. It may encourage further use since others can now do the same without paying money to Verizon for a licence (and they can presumably consult the rejected patent application to get tips on how it's done).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27791741 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:26:11 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27791724
Naturally of course if ever exploited the devices with the monitoring will have it in the contract. in the 1pt font that you allow Verizon to monitor your room.
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Well totalitarian societies have some advantages. For example the trains run on time. ...

For the privileged few, who also have the necessary "travel papers" and the special credits needed to buy tickets... ;)
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Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27791288 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:42:52 EDT Re: Not new news, but still disturbing... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27791263 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Not-new-news-but-still-disturbing-27791263 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:36:45 EDT Re:   http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-nbsp-27791207
The problem with technology like this is twofold IMO.

1) People become accustomed to it just like they have with internet/phone monitoring. The "coolness factor" should not be discounted.

2) While video/audio might not be sent back to the provider with initial versions it will occur over time. The rationale for such a change might be technical but once in place it'll become the norm and it's "game over".

Also if this does become the norm all TV's will contain cameras and microphones.
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I'm sure Verizon would never dream of capturing data and sending it back to their servers. And Bob wouldn't be able to access the data either.

/sarcasm off

George Orwell's 1984 (published in 1948) had TV's that could spy on you. Guess he was off by a few years.
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... the company proposes to use the technology to serve targeted ads appropriate to whatever you’re doing in the, uh, privacy of your own home—fighting, cuddling, or hanging out with your cats. ...

Or serving targeted ads aimed directly at your cats. Which, all of us here (except the cats) would agree, is going entirely too far...
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by Casey Johnston - Dec 3 2012, 4:45pm MST

Intellectual Property122 Verizon has filed a patent for a DVR that can watch and listen to the goings-on in your living room. In the application, the company proposes to use the technology to serve targeted ads appropriate to whatever you’re doing in the, uh, privacy of your own home—fighting, cuddling, or hanging out with your cats.

»arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012···top-box/
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