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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:01:37 EDT

Blackbird posted :

I believe "common sense" is inversely proportional to the hourly rate the lawyers are being paid.

And given the going hourly rate for litigators in these kinds of cases, that implies a pretty low 'common sense' result... very nearly approaching zero.
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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:51:04 EDT

StuartMW posted : I believe "common sense" is inversely proportional to the hourly rate the lawyers are being paid.
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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:45:30 EDT

Blackbird posted : I think the real problem arises in what is defined as "fair use". Lately, some enforcers have taken the view that copying/using much beyond a single syllable is not fair use... and some users have taken the view that everything constitutes fair use, as long as you perhaps don't copy the punctuation in a title or something equally trivial.

As with so many similar impasses, common sense appears to be left out of the whole situation. Perhaps that's all the EU Commission is hoping for... but at the same time, common sense is so signally lacking in government agencies and commissions that whatever meets their approval will probably never pass an ordinary person's "common sense" sniff test.
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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:37:29 EDT

StuartMW posted :

said by Kearnstd:

well in a legal way he makes sense though.

I disagree. I'm not a lawyer but I believe that there's "fair use" in the copyright law to cover situations like you suggested. Using a copyrighted work. in full and without permission, is stealing IMO.
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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:18:28 EDT

Kearnstd posted : well in a legal way he makes sense though. Someone using a copyrighted tune in say a Youtube video is not doing it to steal the music.

More likely its that they want to reduce the legal burden of the court system that is being choked with someone downloading a single movie or sending notices to Youtube because someone posted a clip from the Simpsons.
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Re: EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:38:26 EDT

StuartMW posted :

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But the bloc's executive, the European Commission, said it was hoping to find a middle ground...

LOL. I love statements like that.

Lets find the "middle ground" between property owners and thieves. I'm sure they can "compromise". Next time a mugger/carjacker/home invader tries to take your stuff remember that ownership is just a matter of opinion and you should "find a middle ground".
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EU mulls more flexible online copyright law

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:31:02 EDT

jaykaykay posted : (Reuters) - Internet users in Europe may be allowed to copy parts of some copyrighted files legally under reforms to outdated rules governing the murky world of online piracy, EU officials said on Wednesday.

Entertainment and software companies, who say they are losing billions of dollars of revenues to pirates, have been lobbying the bloc to outlaw all unlicensed copying and sharing of their digital films, music and applications.

But the bloc's executive, the European Commission, said it was hoping to find a middle ground that would let legitimate users copy parts of some files - while clamping down on serious criminals.

»www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/···20121205
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