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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:00:36 EDT

stevek1949 posted :

Thank you Everyone for replies, Will consult a lawyer on the roof and maintenance situations...and deal with all the other things as they come up.

You may want to take a copy of the condo declarations with you. Get a lawyer that hase some condo association legal experience.

Good luck. Sounds like you will need it!

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:44:38 EDT

computerman2 posted : Thank you Everyone for replies, Will consult a lawyer on the roof and maintenance situations...and deal with all the other things as they come up.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:53:09 EDT

Critsmcgee posted :

said by Cabal:

said by Critsmcgee:

said by Cabal:

The management company reports to the board (and can be replaced by them and/or the homeowners). The management company may draw up the budget and handle the everyday finances, but the board is ultimately held accountable for it.

Who are accountable to the owners.

Obviously.

Owners -> Board -> Management Company

Power on both ends with monkey's in the middle! :)

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:09:42 EDT

Cabal posted :

said by Critsmcgee:

said by Cabal:

Who are accountable to the owners.

Obviously.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:06:06 EDT

Critsmcgee posted :

said by Cabal:

Who are accountable to the owners.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:54 EDT

Cabal posted :

said by Draiman:

said by Cabal:

said by computerman2:

Thank you all for the replies, And Yes do agree Entire board and Management company should be fired way they manage things around here.

Sounds like you should run for the board at the next election. That's what I did when I was displeased with how things were being handled.

That's like changing your oil filter but not changing your oil itself. The management company is as much a problem as the board. Get a good management company in first then worry about the board. :)

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:16:34 EDT

Critsmcgee posted :

said by bmilone2:

said by Draiman:

I'm sure it varies a lot. The board can directly control stuff or just conduct meetings and let the management company handle everything else. I always pick associations where the management company runs the show. The board has no power over financial matters. All changes that involve money is done either by owner vote or by the management company.

You are incorrect. An Association is a corporate entity, registered in the State it is located in. The Board is elected by the homeowners to conduct the business of the Association and has a fudiciary reponsibility to conduct business in the best interest of the Association. Notice I didnt say how groups of homeowners would like because what a homeowner may request doesn't always reflect what is best for the Association (business).

The management company better not be making unilateral decisions regarding the Associations monatary affairs. That would be illegal and unethical unless they are doing so under the guidelines set forth by the Board.

The Board has the right to have a management company handle the day to day operations of the Association, but as stated in last post, the management company does this based on the policies and precedures set forth by the Board.

Just agree to disagree. There's no way your going to be able to win that stance for all 50 states and all situations. You keep making statements like there is only one way to do stuff....your way. You've been here long enough to know better too.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:25:38 EDT

bmilone2 posted :

said by Draiman:

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:23:48 EDT

GroovyPhoenx posted : Time to contact a laywer my thinks and have the condo/management open the books!

In so far as I know, it is not ALLOWED by law to run in the red, as you are paying for your water included in the bill an amount MUST be allocated to this, same as everythign else, a budget needs to be made and submitted for approval.

As for transferring the issue of the roof over to owners? No way is that permitted! you purchased the condo with the "Outside shell" being condo responsibility, the cost of replacing a roof on a single home runs from 2000-5000, regardless of how much fees you are paying, some of that money needs to be allocated to a roof /maintenance fund and they cannot just transfer something willy nilly.

Looks like el presidente is getting a kick back to accept this deal in some fashion.

In my own condo corp we have a president who while fully legal is doing many things we disapprove of, mind you I was unsuccessful in running against him as he "stacks" the votes by getting a lot of the owners who are absent to provide him with proxy votes. Thing is, we have no way to contact them since we're not privy to the information he is giving him an unfair advantage as he has been running the place like his playground for over 25 years.

I'm in a Condo not by choice but by fact it's all I could afford at the time. if I could I would dump it and live in a single house where while I pay all the bills I'd also own the whole shabang!

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:02:31 EDT

Draiman posted : I'm sure it varies a lot. The board can directly control stuff or just conduct meetings and let the management company handle everything else. I always pick associations where the management company runs the show. The board has no power over financial matters. All changes that involve money is done either by owner vote or by the management company.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:25:50 EDT

bmilone2 posted : The management company only carries out the policies and procedures set force by the Board. For all we know the management company provided advise on how to implement and notify residents of the decision made only to have the Board ignore the suggestions. It happens that way all the time. Take it from someone with 25 years in the business.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:00:34 EDT

Draiman posted :

said by Cabal:

said by computerman2:

Thank you all for the replies, And Yes do agree Entire board and Management company should be fired way they manage things around here.

Sounds like you should run for the board at the next election. That's what I did when I was displeased with how things were being handled.

That's like changing your oil filter but not changing your oil itself. The management company is as much a problem as the board. Get a good management company in first then worry about the board. :)
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:54:37 EDT

Cabal posted :

said by computerman2:

Thank you all for the replies, And Yes do agree Entire board and Management company should be fired way they manage things around here.

Sounds like you should run for the board at the next election. That's what I did when I was displeased with how things were being handled.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:40:43 EDT

computerman2 posted : Thank you all for the replies, And Yes do agree Entire board and Management company should be fired way they manage things around here.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:28:56 EDT

Draiman posted : Like Msradell pointed out it's not legal for them to turn over roof maintenance to the owners. What is legal would be break up the cost of the roof maintenance shortage between all owners and impose a special assessment so that they can take care of it. The same with the water bill and anything else they need to fix. It sounds like the management company needs to be fired as well as the entire board.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:51:08 EDT

computerman2 posted : 8,000 Dollars to run the Sprinkler system for 2 days a week (for 3 months) in the Summer

How they got so deep in the hole who knows at this point, but I agree it's ridiciolous

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:38:40 EDT

computerman2 posted : Been Talking to Lawyers on other issues...so far not much progress, Management company was like they got no choice but turn over roof maintenance to the Owners...Reserve Fund very low at the moment

Vacant units still owned by the Developer

Road was finally finished in August, after 10 years of driving on the sub layer, that was cracking and had ton of Pot holes in it

Water issue still working on, and other issues

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:30:09 EDT

Msradell posted :

said by computerman2:

76 Units in this Assocation, with about 26-30 vacant in the rear

Right Now The President stated will be more info after it's all wired in, and More at the January 7th meeting

Reserves here very low, can't even afford roof maintenance as stated back in October, Roof Maintenance now turned over to individual Residents, Do have Copy of previous meetings minutes somewhere around here.

Water bill is over 26,000 in the RED, raising dues no matter what in the future was told as well...

All info I got right now concerning the cable/internet/phone matter at this point

To start with it sounds like the president is trying to hide something if he doesn't talk openly about it. Obviously once it's all wired it's going to be much harder to make changes to the agreement.

But outside of that it sounds like the organization is very poorly run. To be that far in the hole is ridiculous and I'm not even sure it's legal to transfer the responsibility of roof maintenance to the property owners without changing the deeds of individual owners! Probably need to consult a lawyer about this. Also are the vacant units still owned by the developer? Somebody should be paying into the general fund for those units. Sounds like a visit with a lawyer is certainly due.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:36:37 EDT

computerman2 posted : 76 Units in this Assocation, with about 26-30 vacant in the rear

Right Now The President stated will be more info after it's all wired in, and More at the January 7th meeting

Reserves here very low, can't even afford roof maintenance as stated back in October, Roof Maintenance now turned over to individual Residents, Do have Copy of previous meetings minutes somewhere around here.

Water bill is over 26,000 in the RED, raising dues no matter what in the future was told as well...

All info I got right now concerning the cable/internet/phone matter at this point

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:24:13 EDT

hortnut posted : How many units are in your Condo association? Have you contacted the President? What did they say? Will WOW be rolled into your dues or does it replace some other provider?

See no reason to change from ATT, as that comes into the unit from the Phone Lines.

Been helping my elderly folks with their paperwork and finances. They are in a Condo consisting of 26 units and are Ranch Style Duplexes.

Have found that every Condo HOA is different.

Any questions I have had I have gone to the President. They have been more than happy to answer or direct me to who could provide the answer. They do have a management company that deals with collecting dues, maintenance schedules, paying bills, keeping up with maintenance and so on. They also have very healthy reserves on hand if something were to come up.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:22:00 EDT

Critsmcgee posted :

said by ilikeme:

My old apartment had 2 right next to each other in each room. One for cable and the other for FIOS. Same thing in my grandparent condo, one for cable, the other for an old master antenna system.

No wonder why the economy is in so bad of shape. Both use coaxial cable and can work on the same lines to the TV's. We switched from normal cable to FIOS and they used the same lines.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:59:17 EDT

anon posted :

said by computerman2:

Been with at&t dsl since January 2005, today get the current newsletter from our Condo Assocation, and towards the end it states the Board has signed an Agreement with WOW to Service our area, and in the staging process.

What does this mean for current at&t dsl subscripers, Directv, and Dish network folks, as well as Comcast, I know with Satellite we got the FCC and OTard rules protecting us I do believe on that part.

But can they force us to switch internet providers? or will we be able to stay with at&t dsl like we are currently

I don't know about MI law, and am not a lawyer, but of the states that I have rented in they have always had something like the following in their landlord tenant law. One state which had very little landlord-tenant laws otherwise even had this similar clause, which made me believe it was enacted on the federal level. :

"Access of tenant to cable, satellite and other television facilities" Interference with cable service prohibited. Neither the owner of any multiple unit residential dwelling nor his agent or representative shall interfere with the right of any tenant or lawful resident thereof to receive communications service, installation or maintenance from a communications provider of their choice... blah blah

I'd look into the statutes for your state, but commonly the landlord, etc., can maintain the right to install whatever they wish, but it usually it means that they can't force you to use a specific provider, but again check in your state.

-Jim

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:11:14 EDT

ilikeme posted :

said by Critsmcgee:

said by Kilroy:

said by Draiman:

It seems silly WOW would install all new infrastructure given it already exists.

I wouldn't allow them to install new line. If they can't use the existing stuff they can't get my business. They can put on a tester and see how good the cable is before they use the existing stuff. If there is no issues they better use it. The last thing people want is 2-4 outlets in each room for each provider. STUPID!

My old apartment had 2 right next to each other in each room. One for cable and the other for FIOS. Same thing in my grandparent condo, one for cable, the other for an old master antenna system.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:08:22 EDT

guppy_fish posted :

said by Critsmcgee:

I wouldn't allow them to install new line.

Your not a good candidate for condo ownership then, its not your choice if the CCR's say otherwise.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:55:49 EDT

Critsmcgee posted :

said by Kilroy:

said by Draiman:

It seems silly WOW would install all new infrastructure given it already exists.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:25:27 EDT

Kilroy posted :

said by Draiman:

It seems silly WOW would install all new infrastructure given it already exists.

If it works. The problem is that they don't know anything about the existing cable. Most cable companies are like that. I've dealt with both WOW and Comcast and they will run new lines for a new install, even if the old line worked fine. This way they know any problems are theirs and not with the old cable.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:40:42 EDT

Draiman posted :

said by stevek1949:

said by Draiman:

For the 2 associations I deal with they control everything from the drywall out.

I am on our condo board, however our condo documents stipulate that the unit owner is responsible from the outside walls IN, meaning that any damage to the siding, glass, brick, etc as well as electrical and plumbing systems, is the responsibility of the owner, not the association. The only thing on the buildings that is the responsibility of the association is the roof. We have Cox cable and FIOS available to any owner, no exclusive rights. We HAVE to allow dishes on the buildings by law, (and there are many) but we can govern any damages to the roof or leaks caused by an installation.

As you can see, the rules differ immensely. It all depends on the builder and the lawyer.

They vary widely that's for sure. I was just trying to point out the same thing you were that more info is needed and you need to read the association stuff before you join. :)

The association we have on our 3rd rental in CT is non-existent. They have an annual meeting but they do nothing and no one shows up. The owners have to do everything. It's about $275 a month for nothing really yet one of the Florida rentals is $293 and it included basic cable, unlimited water, weight room, spa, pool, gated, etc.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:22:05 EDT

stevek1949 posted :

said by Draiman:

For the 2 associations I deal with they control everything from the drywall out.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:09:24 EDT

computerman2 posted : All I know right now is More Discussion President said will take place at the January 7th meeting

Currently have Comcast in here providing service to several units, and Some units have Dish Network or Directv cable, in addition to at&t dsl

and yes Condo Assocation controls indoor water meters, have to give them access, sprinker system meter inside here, in addition to sump pump maintenance when needed.

A lot of unanswered questions with the WOW Cable issue, but quite a bit of other issues to deal with at the next meeting as well.

Currently Telephone/cable, and internet is paid by each unit that subscribes to it, Current Water bill is paid by the Assocation, which is way behind on with that bill..

Will Post pictures once WOW starts installing, got construction notice on door hang tag yesterday, flag laying will be in a couple days it states..and they will do there best to restore the lawn back to way it was.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:05:31 EDT

Draiman posted : For the 2 associations I deal with they control everything from the drywall out. That means they can request access to your place to install new water pipes, RG6 (cable), etc. and you can't stop them. If you refuse access they fine you. If you don't pay they invoke the clause that allows them to foreclose on your unit. They can be a great thing or your worst nightmare.

We had a toilet overflow in the unit above mine and it leaked into the ceiling of my unit. They came and replaced the insulation and drywall in the bathroom ceiling since it was their responsibility.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:59:28 EDT

stevek1949 posted : Is telephone/cable/internet included in the condo fees?

The "agreement" may be that they have agreed to allow WOW access to install on the property, not that they are requiring everyone to subscribe to them or abandon their current providers.

Too many unanswered questions. I would make sure that you are at the Jan 7th meeting to ask the pointed questions. I would also check your condo bylaws and declarations to see what is allowed by the board. They probably have the right to allow access to the property, but not to each individual unit.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:30:02 EDT

Draiman posted :

said by kontos:

said by Draiman:

It means you will be paying for WOW services in your monthly dues whether you use it or not. You can do anything you want though.

It is also possible that the board simply granted WOW a right of way in the development to install infrastructure to service any homes that want to subscribe.

That could be the case but the OP said the infrastructure already exists in the condos. They have RG6 aka coaxial cable in the units with other carriers who provide service now. It seems silly WOW would install all new infrastructure given it already exists.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:09:44 EDT

kontos posted :

said by Draiman:

It means you will be paying for WOW services in your monthly dues whether you use it or not. You can do anything you want though.

It is also possible that the board simply granted WOW a right of way in the development to install infrastructure to service any homes that want to subscribe.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:46:50 EDT

vaxvms posted : What did the board chairman tell you when you contacted him/her about this?

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:06:08 EDT

computerman2 posted : Well we do have it in writing that it's allowed on the roof when Directv was installed back in May 2012..so I think we're covered there

So think we're fine for the moment

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:57:11 EDT

bmilone2 posted : In regard to Association restricting access to satellite use the Federal Telecommunications Act states:

If it is a Fee Simple Homeowners Association (meaning the homeowner owns the lot in addition to the structure) the Association cannot restrict you from obtaining a signal through the use of a dish. (location cannot be restricted)

If it is a Condominium Association, the Association can't totally restrict use of a dish, but can stipulate one can only be placed on limited common element of the owner, which is normally the patio or deck (if the unit has one). The issue with this is that from that location the dish may not have the proper ability to line up to the satellite.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:31:44 EDT

Majestik posted :

said by Cabal:

said by Majestik:

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Every month where I live.

For board meetings or full association meetings? The latter would be ridiculous.

I don't recall a full meeting every year. Usually when they want everyone to attend they will use a nearby hotel conference room.
And there has to be a over a certain amount before they will do this.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:58:35 EDT

Majestik posted :

said by Draiman:

said by Majestik:

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Every month where I live.

Board meeting once a month. Always been that way here. No paperwork to send out. No cost. Coffee and tea might cost something. Homemade cookies or whatever. A lot of women here who like to cook and bake.
Discussions on resident issues or complaints.
Usually a guest speaker such as fireman to discuss home fire safety and prevention,police discuss home safety/security,learn to use portable resuscitator,saving a drowning victim,etc. getting to know new neighbors,District Councilor visits,discuss spring bake sale and annual spring garage sale,etc.
Always something going on here.
Voting ballots on anything are mailed to each resident usually the third week of December every year.Residents are informed and given detailed info and questions on any issue months before its time to vote.Any board member running for a position will present a detailed resume.
I think there has been one or two emergency issues we had to vote on that was not in December since I've lived here.

Monthly newsletter email has the board meeting,book club,Bridge club,game night,etc. date and time along ,monthly treasury report,property manager report,board member email address,classifieds,community news,etc.
This is a large gated community.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:11:24 EDT

Cabal posted :

said by Majestik:

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Every month where I live.

For board meetings or full association meetings? The latter would be ridiculous.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:24:43 EDT

computerman2 posted : Just got the notice on the door, that WOW Internet and Phone is gonna start wiring the complex soon, and please don't remove the utlity marking flags once placed on the lawn LOL

I wonder if they try to get people with Satellites on the roof or Pole mounted if they'll be willing to pay the Early Termination Fee lol, I doubt it though

Right now we're staying with at&t dsl, and Directv Satellite

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:13:34 EDT

Draiman posted :

said by Majestik:

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Every month where I live.

That would cost a ton of money to do sending out all the paperwork monthly. I'd also contend it boarders on excessive to the point where the board could spread out issues for votes in hopes people would miss it and they could sneak stuff in. I'd take real offense to a month meeting unless voting was restricted to once a year or quarterly meetings only.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:02:53 EDT

bmilone2 posted : The requirements for frequency of meetings at a Homeowners or Condominium Association would be contained in the Master Deed and By-Laws. Some documents only call for an annual meeting.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:25:20 EDT

Majestik posted :

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Every month where I live.
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Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:10:45 EDT

mario02423 posted :

said by Draiman:

Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

In Illinois, we're supposed to have them semi regularly, but we usually end up with one meeting a year when someone has something to complain about. Even then, the President of the Board is in foreclosure, so not much gets done. ;)

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:28:16 EDT

Draiman posted : Ouch it looks like in Michigan only an annual meeting is required by law. It's quarterly for me on both properties I have with associations.

Re: Condo Assocation and Signed Agreements with Cable Provider

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:20:57 EDT

computerman2 posted : Usually our meetings are once a year, last one was in October, and then this one coming up--last meeting in October discussed was parking, and Water bill, and misc other items--NO Mention of Signing any agreement with WOW Cable then

City just got WOW Cable and Internet in the City over the Summer...

But i'll just worry about it when the first bill comes I suppose, and deal with it then..