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Drex
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Cabinet Base Not Wide Enough

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So how does one go about fixing something like this? I'm referring to the gap between the tiles and the cabinet base. The cabinet that's been elevated is a different story. Shows you how level my floor is...and yes I was well aware that it was not level. I'm fairly certain the assclown contractor who built our home did it that way.

Background:
We were flooded for Isaac. Replaced all of the cabinets. The tile floors were installed prior to the flood.

I especially like the cabinet that's up on stilts.

mattmag

join:2000-04-09
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That's called not ordering the proper cabinets. Whoever did that should have made sure that the base depth was the same on both, which obviously it is not. About the only thing you could easily do is add more tile into the gaps and match the grout line pattern.

The elevated "different story" cabinet is amazing... How long of a run is there to make that big of a drop in the floor elevation??? That looks to be well over two inches?

alkizmo
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A matching baseboard should do the trick.
If you get a wide enough baseboard, you can even cover the elevated cabinets.

cdru
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said by alkizmo:

A matching baseboard should do the trick.

Or some molding.

Is this an island or against a wall? If it's against a wall, can you shim at the wall and hide the gap with trim? May be tricky if you have counters with an integrated backsplash...

Drex
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You are right about the floor elevation. It's horrible...and that's an understatement. I honestly don't know how the original cabinets/countertops were level. The cabinet in question is a small cabinet that is next to the stove. There were no issues with the countertops on the left side of the stove being uneven with the countertop that sits on top of this cabinet. They were even with the stove too.

jjoshua
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You mean that the cabinet is not deep enough?

Can we get a wide shot of the whole area of the affected cabinets?

Annmarie

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We had something similar happen when we had our kitchen remodeled.
We decided to make a contrasting strip of rectangle tiles in blue run along that part of the floor up to the cabinets and then actually around the whole floor.

So there are the major square ones in a similar color that you have though we turned them so they are more in a diamond pattern and a strip of blue rectangles as a border.

Looks pretty nice. And one tile goes up that lower part of the cabinet all the way across.

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Here's a wider view...more or less.
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said by jjoshua:

You mean that the cabinet is not deep enough?

Can we get a wide shot of the whole area of the affected cabinets?

I don't currently have pictures available that show the cabinet in question, but I can easily get one. Just not right now.

stevek1949
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said by cdru:

said by alkizmo:

A matching baseboard should do the trick.

Or some molding.

Duct Tape! (couldn't resist! )

natedj
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said by Annmarie:

We had something similar happen when we had our kitchen remodeled.
We decided to make a contrasting strip of rectangle tiles in blue run along that part of the floor up to the cabinets and then actually around the whole floor.

So there are the major square ones in a similar color that you have though we turned them so they are more in a diamond pattern and a strip of blue rectangles as a border.

Looks pretty nice. And one tile goes up that lower part of the cabinet all the way across.

I'll like to see a pic of how this turned out.

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Fill the gap with the same color grout as used in the tiles.
Netkeys
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When setting cabinets with a floor that is very uneven you should set the 1st cabinet at the lowest floor point. Then as you move left and right from that point you scribe the basses of the cabinets to keep the top level. Then you don't have any gaps at the bottom. You will have a difference in the kick space gap between the floor and the cabinet shelf but would look better then this large gap.

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Pull the cabinet away from the wall so it fits in the old space. You only need to fill the gap between the back of the cabinet and the wall with one piece of trim.

VioletVenom
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-Remove 1/4" kick without damaging, shouldn't be too hard.

-Fir out the kick space with a 1x4, hold it back 1/4"+ from my red arrow (end of cabinet).

-Reuse old kick over 1x4, miter end and return it back to cover the end grain on installed 1x4

-Cover remaining gap between kick and tile with quarter round
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said by stevek1949:

said by cdru:

said by alkizmo:

A matching baseboard should do the trick.

Or some molding.

Duct Tape! (couldn't resist! )

Black duct tape...

chmod
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said by mattmag:

That's called not ordering the proper cabinets. Whoever did that should have made sure that the base depth was the same on both, which obviously it is not. About the only thing you could easily do is add more tile into the gaps and match the grout line pattern.

The elevated "different story" cabinet is amazing... How long of a run is there to make that big of a drop in the floor elevation??? That looks to be well over two inches?

The "shims" have me confused also. Why is it bricked up like a water heater in a basement?

VioletVenom
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That is how much his slab is out of level.

cableties
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said by jjoshua:

Pull the cabinet away from the wall so it fits in the old space. You only need to fill the gap between the back of the cabinet and the wall with one piece of trim.

I doubt he can do that. The granite top is in. To pull cabinets that far off will cause worse issue.

I think either:
-add kickboard (matching stain) and trim (1/4round or similar)
-take out some of the tile (grind-cut) to make a border and put inlays in (contrast tiling).

Draiman
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At least they didn't tile the entire kitchen then set the cabinets on top of the tile. That makes it a nightmare to replace the tile in the future.
themagicone
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Couldn't resit... That is a very poor layout that I would of fixed when replacing the cabinets. With where you're putting your stove you loose that whole corner. Plus if someone is trying to cook they are in the way of sink. Anyways... the idea with the trim is good.

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said by Draiman:

At least they didn't tile the entire kitchen then set the cabinets on top of the tile. That makes it a nightmare to replace the tile in the future.

Toe kick saw. Been there done that.

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Replacing tile is a nightmare in nearly any event.

ropeguru
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Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets.

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My floors are filthy right now so please excuse that. We are still cleaning up after Hurricane Sandy traipsing in and out of the kitchen door but I will post a pic ASAP.

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said by Draiman:

At least they didn't tile the entire kitchen then set the cabinets on top of the tile. That makes it a nightmare to replace the tile in the future.

My bro-in-law and I laid the tiles. Before, we had that God aweful vinyl floor in there. I think the original contractor may have put the countertop up on stilts to level out that cabinet instead of the cabinet up on stilts.
After the flood, I helped remove the cabinets, but someone else removed the countertops, so I didn't get a good look at the one in question to see if it was stilted or not.
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said by themagicone:

Couldn't resit... That is a very poor layout that I would of fixed when replacing the cabinets. With where you're putting your stove you loose that whole corner. Plus if someone is trying to cook they are in the way of sink. Anyways... the idea with the trim is good.

I totally agree, but it wasn't within our budget to start moving things around.
When I can get around to posting some more pics, I'll point out where the original builder left me with a huge dead space. I've fixed that however with these cabinets.

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Sorry Drex just a couple and maybe they will help. Gratuitous placement of animals.

OMG! The amount of pug hair on that rug is shameful! Damn maid.

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said by ropeguru:

Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets.

It makes sense to put it before the cabinets. The useful life of decent tile is far longer than the useful life of the cabinets, plus it allows for configuration changes without having to replace the tile. Not to mention leaks are much easier to spot, before they damage the subfloor and cabinets.

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said by cowboyro:

said by ropeguru:

Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets.

It makes sense to put it before the cabinets. The useful life of decent tile is far longer than the useful life of the cabinets, plus it allows for configuration changes without having to replace the tile. Not to mention leaks are much easier to spot, before they damage the subfloor and cabinets.

Doesn't make sense if you are NOT going to run the tile under the cabinets.