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Re: Cabinet Base Not Wide Enough Couldn't resit... That is a very poor layout that I would of fixed when replacing the cabinets. With where you're putting your stove you loose that whole corner. Plus if someone is trying to cook they are in the way of sink. Anyways... the idea with the trim is good. |
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said by Draiman:At least they didn't tile the entire kitchen then set the cabinets on top of the tile. That makes it a nightmare to replace the tile in the future.
Toe kick saw. Been there done that.
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Replacing tile is a nightmare in nearly any event.
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Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets. |
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My floors are filthy right now so please excuse that. We are still cleaning up after Hurricane Sandy traipsing in and out of the kitchen door but I will post a pic ASAP.
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said by Draiman:At least they didn't tile the entire kitchen then set the cabinets on top of the tile. That makes it a nightmare to replace the tile in the future.
My bro-in-law and I laid the tiles. Before, we had that God aweful vinyl floor in there. I think the original contractor may have put the countertop up on stilts to level out that cabinet instead of the cabinet up on stilts.
After the flood, I helped remove the cabinets, but someone else removed the countertops, so I didn't get a good look at the one in question to see if it was stilted or not.
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said by themagicone:Couldn't resit... That is a very poor layout that I would of fixed when replacing the cabinets. With where you're putting your stove you loose that whole corner. Plus if someone is trying to cook they are in the way of sink. Anyways... the idea with the trim is good.
I totally agree, but it wasn't within our budget to start moving things around.
When I can get around to posting some more pics, I'll point out where the original builder left me with a huge dead space. I've fixed that however with these cabinets.
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said by ropeguru:Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets. It makes sense to put it before the cabinets. The useful life of decent tile is far longer than the useful life of the cabinets, plus it allows for configuration changes without having to replace the tile. Not to mention leaks are much easier to spot, before they damage the subfloor and cabinets. |
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Mechanicsville, VA | said by cowboyro:said by ropeguru:Agreed, but the tile should have been put in AFTER the cabinets. It makes sense to put it before the cabinets. The useful life of decent tile is far longer than the useful life of the cabinets, plus it allows for configuration changes without having to replace the tile. Not to mention leaks are much easier to spot, before they damage the subfloor and cabinets. Doesn't make sense if you are NOT going to run the tile under the cabinets. |
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Collinsville, IL | reply to cowboyro
I wish I could have put my tile down before the cabinets, although there was a 15 year difference in time. It was put on a regular plywood sub floor and needed backerboard put on first. Makes for a real tight reinstall of the dishwasher ....... |
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said by ropeguru:Doesn't make sense if you are NOT going to run the tile under the cabinets. There is no reason not to though. Added cost is minimal, you're talking about 20-30 tiles (12x12") extra... |
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Mechanicsville, VA | said by cowboyro:said by ropeguru:Doesn't make sense if you are NOT going to run the tile under the cabinets. There is no reason not to though. Added cost is minimal, you're talking about 20-30 tiles (12x12") extra... Ugh... I don't think you are getting it.
If you aren't going to run the tiles under the cabinet, then you shouldn't put the tiles in first because you run into the issue like the OP has. THIS IS MY POINT!
This is NOT about whether you should or should not run the tiles under the cabinets. |
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| said by ropeguru:said by cowboyro:said by ropeguru:Doesn't make sense if you are NOT going to run the tile under the cabinets. There is no reason not to though. Added cost is minimal, you're talking about 20-30 tiles (12x12") extra... Ugh... I don't think you are getting it. If you aren't going to run the tiles under the cabinet, then you shouldn't put the tiles in first because you run into the issue like the OP has. THIS IS MY POINT! He could have kept extra tiles and set them aside.
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Thanks, Annmarie  . Very much appreciated. |
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said by ropeguru:Ugh... I don't think you are getting it.
I'm definitely not getting it.
The house was built with shitty vinyl floors in the kitchen. Cabinets were put in FIRST, then the vinyl floor was laid down.
Fast forward to a couple years ago. I ripped up the vinyl flooring and laid down the tile. The cabinets stayed.
3 months ago, we flood. The cabinets were removed and the tile floor stayed (insurance won't pay to have the tiles removed, just cleaned...flood insurance is the worst).
SO...My contractor had his "cabinet" guy come in and measure for the new cabinets. To me it's his fault and it just needs to be fixed. I might have some more tiles lying around, but I doubt I'd have enough to tile under the cabinets. I might have enough to make a strip and fill in some of that gap.
I'm going to see what the contractor's going to do.
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I'm definitely not getting it. The house was built with shitty vinyl floors in the kitchen. Cabinets were put in FIRST, then the vinyl floor was laid down. Fast forward to a couple years ago. I ripped up the vinyl flooring and laid down the tile. The cabinets stayed. 3 months ago, we flood. The cabinets were removed and the tile floor stayed (insurance won't pay to have the tiles removed, just cleaned...flood insurance is the worst). SO...My contractor had his "cabinet" guy come in and measure for the new cabinets. To me it's his fault and it just needs to be fixed. I might have some more tiles lying around, but I doubt I'd have enough to tile under the cabinets. I might have enough to make a strip and fill in some of that gap. I'm going to see what the contractor's going to do. Look, this is really simple. The "tile guy" didn't measure properly. I bet he didn't measure the base of the cabinets at all because idiot contractors usually don't think like that. This is a problem with the new cabinet(s) not being built properly to fit into the solution the customer was looking for. You had tile down, you had cabinets that fix that tile layout before, he should have made sure the new cabinets had the same base layouts so as to fit into your Tetris layout of a floor.
If he didn't do that, that's his fault. He should replace the cabinet with a properly sized one, no ghetto rigging the existing one to make it look ok. If he knew ahead of time that he wouldn't be able to build you one to fit your tile layout, he should have notified you ahead of time (before buildout) and let the two of you discuss a solution over before anything was done. He didn't do that, you don't like what he did, he has to redo it. Yes man, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. |
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ok, so I was mistaken in the order of your construction. I thought the tile was new this go around and was put down before your new cabinets were installed.
Hence the comment I made but certainly not relevant for this situation.
Sorry for the confusion. |
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said by Annmarie:OMG! The amount of pug hair on that rug is shameful! Damn maid. We gave up on cleaning service after getting pugs. There was just no point when everything was full of hair 4 hours after they left!
said by kherr:I wish I could have put my tile down before the cabinets, although there was a 15 year difference in time. It was put on a regular plywood sub floor and needed backerboard put on first. Makes for a real tight reinstall of the dishwasher .......
A buddy of mine bought a model home. They apparently installed the dishwasher, then tiled. Once the dishwasher failed, he ended up having to get new countertops, because it was impossible to remove the old dishwasher!
In my current home the cabinets went over slab, and then tile, but they must have built the cabinets an extra inch taller or something because there's PLENTY of clearance to get the dishwasher in and out.
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| said by djrobx:A buddy of mine bought a model home. They apparently installed the dishwasher, then tiled. Once the dishwasher failed, he ended up having to get new countertops, because it was impossible to remove the old dishwasher!
In my current home the cabinets went over slab, and then tile, but they must have built the cabinets an extra inch taller or something because there's PLENTY of clearance to get the dishwasher in and out.
I thought I was going to have that issue. I was able to adjust the pegs down far enough to clear the countertops. This was when we were originally going to re-use the countertops. I hope I'm able to get the new dishwasher in there without any problems.
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