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Re: Charter Installer Assaults and Rapes Customer said by Jiminy : You cannot, absolutely cannot blame an organization for the action's of one man.
Actually, you can, under respondeat superior if the actions are within the normal scope of employment. However, since I'm fairly confident assault and rape aren't within the normal scope of employment for a cable installer, respondeat superior doesn't apply in this case.
Also, if the person was a contractor the employer typically has no vicarious liability. | |
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| That's EXACTLY why all the cable companies and satellite companies contract out their "tough" installs. This whole "sub-contractor" arrangement is illegal too. The IRS has been slowly cracking down on them: » www.insurancejournal.com/news/na···7364.htm» www.wagehourinsights.com/indepen···ractors/» www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Bus···-DefinedAnd the reason I bring this up ties into this story (I'll get there, I promise). The cable companies have been running this type of racket for decades. When I was a cable contractor, there was 0 test and 0 training. Parolees flocked to this job. 1) no background check 2) no drug test 3) satisfies parole officer. Even to this day, these young men and women are doing this type of work and being paid by "piecework". The problem is, these guys are often working for less than minimum wage when all is said and done. Been there and done it myself, and seen it done 100's of times. Granted, if you are fast and efficient, you can eek out an existence after the learning curve swings in your favor (if you can hold out that long). These circumstances tend to attract many "less than desirable" folks into the business. That is where I'm going with this story. This "profession" or trade is basically set up to attract the dregs of society. I'm not saying all cable and satellite people are bad, but a disproportionate number are - and that's simply because of the scheme these companies are using to avoid paying these guys a decent wage. I'm glad the cops interrupted and caught this piece of shit. We all know he was going to murder her. After all, she could EASILY identify him. --
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't. | |
| I doubt they contract out to avoid liability for the crimes because they're not liable for something like that even with staff employee, again, unless it's related to the job performance...i.e. someone gets electrocuted because they somehow screwed up the install.
I'd agree though it's pretty likely related to cost. | | |
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| said by whoaru99:I doubt they contract out to avoid liability for the crimes because they're not liable for something like that even with staff employee, again, unless it's related to the job performance...i.e. someone gets electrocuted because they somehow screwed up the install.
I'd agree though it's pretty likely related to cost.
Follow the money. You're absolutely right. As long as it saves more money than it costs them in frustrated customers, this practice will continue. Not just with Charter, but most ISPs.
And I apologize. Even as I typed it, I knew I shouldn't have said, "You cannot, absolutely cannot blame an organization for the action's of one man." But as you pointed out, that's neither here nor there.
Nunya, I absolutely agree that the system in place tends to attract a less desirable breed of man. Those with a GED who bounce from job to job, sure. But I simply fail to see the connection between your point and this one instance of an evil man acting on his whims. You seem to be applying this exception-to-the-rule situation to a system at large. You're larger point may be true, but this case does nothing to further your goals. On top of that, everything you say about no background check, no drug test, is simply not true. The company in question has already stated their policies. It's not as if they can simply lie about that kind of thing. While your point (the background check issue) has zero factual evidence to back it and merely your own biased experiences from many years ago, when things we're different. My underlying point is that you're using this awful situation to further your hatred of Charter when there simply is no reason for doing so. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike Charter (or any ISP/Telco, for that matter), but one contractor going off the reservation is not one of them. It'd be no different than hating McDonalds because one teenage dirtbag employee spit in your burger. Does Charter condone the system that treats their contractors as sub-human and not deserving of a "decent" wage? Yes. But subscribers do as well, by expecting a service as minimum cost. If Charter required their contractors to have a 4 year degree and paid them 60k a year, just imagine what your internet bill would be every month. Customers always expect more for less, and this is the result. Best Buy hires teens in place of knowledgeable sales people. Burger King hires drop outs instead of world class chefs.
And don't get me wrong. I'm all for the reduction of third party contractors, as the articles you linked seem to indicate a trend in. In house techs means more accountability and tighter control in the system in general. But in the long run, customers will pay more, because we live in a capitalist country and no one can/will expect top brass/CEO's to take a pay cut to shore up the difference. Now that's a good reason to hate Charter... | |
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