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Pashune
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reply to Dude111

Re: [Rant] LED lights are ugly crap

The flicker in the new-fangled (new to me anyway) Christmas LED lights is definitely noticeable to me when compared to the older incandescent style lights.

It's not really a bother but it's slightly distracting. It seems like we're constantly going forward in technology and yet backwards at times. Some things just look and work better without all of these 'green energy' enhancements. I actually re-used an old pair of mini incandescent icicle Christmas lights from years back. They finally started to fail this year after a heavy storm.

I'm only in my 20's, but I can't help my envy when these things were popular I remember when my grandpa used to put them up when he was still around in the early 90's.




I'm not gonna lie; they look a lot better than those tiny incandescent and LED style Christmas lights. More vibrant and colorful; a bigger presence (obviously because they're bigger?) if you will. The new lights today don't look bad, but I just don't think they look as good as the older ones either. Could be the nostalgia talking for all I know. They were bigger energy hogs and fire hazards of course, but one month of Christmas isn't gonna kill the power bill ... and hopefully not your property either.

Then again, they're just Christmas lights. Not the end of the world, etc. I can probably just order a specialized pair if I'm desperate enough for next year.
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said by Fir_Na_Tine:

I don't like the LED's because of the refresh rate as you posted. It just looks weird and sometimes makes my dizzy or gives me a slight headache. I've noticed it too with some Cadillac LED tail lights as well. Are all LED lights like that? Christmas ones etc.

cheap older tech LEDs have the issue .
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reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

said by Dustyn:

I don't think I've ever come across a Christmas LED light that doesn't have that strobing flickering effect. Are the high quality ones that mimic incandescents sold in high end department stores? All I see at Canadian Tire, Wallmart or Home Hardware are the same flickery LED light pulses that are dizzying to look at.

Why do you see "strobing flickering" and I don't? Not saying you don't see it, just don't understand why you would see it and others don't. Weird. I just see bright, crisp, clear beautiful colors.

Evolution

we have super human eyes that can detect motion and light better I seriously I have to crank up the refresh rate to about 120hz+ just to get rid of the flickering on CRT computer screens

LCD's must be below 12ms to eliminate the detectable pixel refresh

My brother had a screen that was 24ms I could see as each pixel refreshed and they did not refresh at the exact sametime and not of the same exact shade of color. Fairly annoying as I would get severe eye strain with in minutes.


Fir_Na_Tine
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said by Anonymous_:

said by La Luna:

said by Dustyn:

I don't think I've ever come across a Christmas LED light that doesn't have that strobing flickering effect. Are the high quality ones that mimic incandescents sold in high end department stores? All I see at Canadian Tire, Wallmart or Home Hardware are the same flickery LED light pulses that are dizzying to look at.

Why do you see "strobing flickering" and I don't? Not saying you don't see it, just don't understand why you would see it and others don't. Weird. I just see bright, crisp, clear beautiful colors.

Evolution

we have super human eyes that can detect motion and light better I seriously I have to crank up the refresh rate to about 120hz+ just to get rid of the flickering on CRT computer screens

LCD's must be below 12ms to eliminate the detectable pixel refresh

My brother had a screen that was 24ms I could see as each pixel refreshed and they did not refresh at the exact sametime and not of the same exact shade of color. Fairly annoying as I would get severe eye strain with in minutes.

I was behind a Mercedes before with LED tail lights and when sitting at a red light I almost wanted to put on sunglasses as his brake lights were so bright it lit up the whole interior of my car red, like I was driving thru hell or something. His running lights were as bright as most other cars brake lights.

Also some police cars with LED light bars are a bit too bright. I know they need to be seen for safety but shouldn't be blinding you.
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JustBurnt

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reply to Pashune

said by Pashune:

The flicker in the new-fangled (new to me anyway) Christmas LED lights is definitely noticeable to me when compared to the older incandescent style lights.

Considering ALL the LCD lights on an average tree use as much electric as ONE of those old fashioned lights, it is a no brainer to me.


Dude111
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reply to Pashune

 

quote:
I'm not gonna lie; they look a lot better than those tiny incandescent and LED style Christmas lights.
Indeed they do,thank you!!!!!


Pashune
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Re: [Rant] LED lights are ugly crap

said by JustBurnt :

said by Pashune:

The flicker in the new-fangled (new to me anyway) Christmas LED lights is definitely noticeable to me when compared to the older incandescent style lights.

Considering ALL the LCD lights on an average tree use as much electric as ONE of those old fashioned lights, it is a no brainer to me.

It all comes down to utility costs. At 0.07 cents per KWH plus the fact that winters are extremely mild here (I might need heat a few days per year), I don't think it'd bother me as much as it'd bother others.
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Dude111
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The saddest part is: IT DIDNT USED TO BOTHER ANYONE and people were fine and managed fine with it! (Before being reprogrammed)



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said by Dude111:

The saddest part is: IT DIDNT USED TO BOTHER ANYONE and people were fine and managed fine with it! (Before being reprogrammed)

The sad part is, you thinking you know everyone elses feelings and thoughts


La Luna
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reply to Dude111

said by Dude111:

The saddest part is: IT DIDNT USED TO BOTHER ANYONE and people were fine and managed fine with it! (Before being reprogrammed)

No, people just started realizing what looks better and is less of a fire hazard. Not to mention no more one bulb goes out and the whole string is done crap.

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reply to Dude111

said by Dude111:

The saddest part is: IT DIDNT USED TO BOTHER ANYONE and people were fine and managed fine with it! (Before being reprogrammed)

If you're an example of someone who hasn't been "reprogrammed," I welcome my new 21st century overlords.

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reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

Not to mention no more one bulb goes out and the whole string is done crap.

Believe it or not, I've had this happen with a couple of LED light strings already.

It wasn't the connections either, it was one of the LEDs itself that actually went open.

Of course, you can't replace the LEDs since they are not socketed, so the whole string is garbage, unless you splice in a replacement LED (which is something the average person can't do).

Normally LEDs don't fail open, unless they are very cheap, which these holiday lights definitely are.
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Dude111
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quote:
If you're an example of someone who hasn't been "reprogrammed," I welcome my new 21st century overlords.
Thank you,I THANKFULLY HAVENT BEEN!
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reply to TheMG

Re:  

said by TheMG:

It wasn't the connections either, it was one of the LEDs itself that actually went open.
[...]
Normally LEDs don't fail open, unless they are very cheap, which these holiday lights definitely are.

Actually I'm not surprised. By making them flicker, it let them go over their limit and produce more light. There's probably more risks that they break too.
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