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Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1
reply to cypherstream

Re: Deploying Windows 8?

said by cypherstream:

Is there group policy to force it to desktop mode and eliminate the start screen and put a start button in the lower left corner?

If they do this, enterprise will have a better grasp on it.

Not even. That would make too much sense.


Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
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You can get part of the way there. You can force it to boot to the desktop instead of the Start UI, but actually putting a start menu on it requires 3rd party software.

MS should really just include the Start8 software with each license. I am convinced it would increase sales of Win8.
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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to GlazedHam

no desktop??

the EU and others will not yet MS get away it app store only apps also there is way to much older apps out there.

As well the app store sand boxing that kills workflows for pro use.



Selenia
I love Debian
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join:2006-09-22
Fort Smith, AR
kudos:2
reply to mikefxu

Most of the organizations I do jobs for are still on XP around here. That is one reason I am glad I got into networking. I can use my creativity and design in coming up with a means to an end that such network will serve. If I am building it, it's an area where I have latitude in determining what parts they order for building it. As opposed to being creative in how to keep the same old crap software struggling to plug along because many don't want to upgrade a mass corporate license until they have to. Leaving you crossing your fingers that you spotted every security issue introduced by their cheapness and plugged the hole with some putty and tape. I personally hate working on such old software as I appreciate the progress since then. I would rather build a secure fast network that meets ones needs and leave the clunkers that connect to it up to some other poor gal/bloke.
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A wise person knows enough to know they couldn't possibly know everything.

There are zealots for every OS, like every religion. They do not represent the majority of users for either.



cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
HarperLand
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reply to mikefxu

All the businesses I do work for don't want win8 most of the owners of these businesses have tried 8 and said no. Only one business owner was interested, untill I let him try it and then he said no.

Windows 8 = Bad joke.

If MS continues down this path, Linux will be the new course for business. I am testing out mint desktop with a few owners on a separate box to see how they like it. No complaints so far, they also like the idea of saving money. I am trying to learn everything Linux so my customers can save some dough.

Linux active directory server
Linux file server
One time fee for a Linux exchange
Linux Desktop x 30

price for software = $1500(for the exchange license)

Price for windows on the same setup = up words of $14k


mikefxu

join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL
reply to mikefxu

This kinda peaked my curiosity for Windows 8:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGxQOXNgF6I


I had Windows Server 2012 on my laptop for two solid days before reformatting it and putting Windows 7 back on it.


BigBlarg

join:2008-02-10
Longueuil, QC
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reply to mikefxu

The big problem with the Metro interface is that they killed multitasking. I have a 2 monitor setup at work and often have 3 or 4 windows open side by side. Can't do that in Metro. Sure you can use desktop mode, but unless you patch it with 3rd party softwares (Start8/Classic shell) you always have to go back to Metro.

What they should have done is give us the choice. "Tablet mode" or "Desktop mode". Pretty much like some Linux distros that let us choose which interface to use.

If Microsoft try to push Metro even more and end up removing desktop mode, I think Linux will start gaining much more popularity.



Selenia
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Fort Smith, AR
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said by BigBlarg:

The big problem with the Metro interface is that they killed multitasking. I have a 2 monitor setup at work and often have 3 or 4 windows open side by side. Can't do that in Metro. Sure you can use desktop mode, but unless you patch it with 3rd party softwares (Start8/Classic shell) you always have to go back to Metro.

What they should have done is give us the choice. "Tablet mode" or "Desktop mode". Pretty much like some Linux distros that let us choose which interface to use.

If Microsoft try to push Metro even more and end up removing desktop mode, I think Linux will start gaining much more popularity.

I wish I thought what you say would come true because there is much more freedom in Linux. However, I see us going back to a Windows xp type situation where people clung to a 10 year old OS because they didn't like Vista(many didn't even like 7, at first). That is horrible for innovation and progress, so I really wish it would go the way you said! Of course, a middle ground might be third party desktop shell software. Not too much wrong with using that, but MS needs to give people an environment they want to use.
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BigBlarg

join:2008-02-10
Longueuil, QC
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2 edits

Yeah you're right. Actually Windows 7 seems good enough to stay for years.

Edit : I'm quite impressed. I installed Ubuntu 12 a few days ago on my personnal laptop to try to find why it was freezing randomly. (Just wanted to see if it would still freeze under Linux because I couldn't find anything wrong) I got used to Ubuntu in 2 or 3 days and I must say I like it. After 3 months, I couldn't get used to Windows 8...



FiReSTaRT
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join:2010-02-26
Canada
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I thought that this thread was a joke Realistically, I had to pick up 7 licenses for all of the new workstations because nobody could get any work done on 8. Fortunately I was dealing with a small group of savvy, self-sufficient users, so I didn't go crazy. We migrated all the workstations we could get away with to Mint (Ubuntu's Unity suffers from many of the same issues as 8), but some are running a rare single platform package, so we couldn't do them all.
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BK3

join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
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reply to The WeaseL

said by The WeaseL:

We are finishing up our move from XP to 7, we aren't going to start that mess again for a while.

Same here, we are still in the process of moving from XP to 7. 8 doesn't stand a chance here.
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mikefxu

join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL

About a 50/50 split between XP and 7 also.



caster 665

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reply to BigBlarg

said by BigBlarg:

The big problem with the Metro interface is that they killed multitasking. I have a 2 monitor setup at work and often have 3 or 4 windows open side by side. Can't do that in Metro. Sure you can use desktop mode, but unless you patch it with 3rd party softwares (Start8/Classic shell) you always have to go back to Metro.

What they should have done is give us the choice. "Tablet mode" or "Desktop mode". Pretty much like some Linux distros that let us choose which interface to use.

If Microsoft try to push Metro even more and end up removing desktop mode, I think Linux will start gaining much more popularity.

Metro should be able to run in a window on the desktop

lorennerol
Premium
join:2003-10-29
Seattle, WA

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reply to mikefxu

I've had more people ask me to remove it than I've had ask me to install it.

Forcing Metro down people's throats may turn out to be one of Microsoft's biggest arrogant blunders ever. All they had to do was leave the freaking Start button in place and give people an option to default to the classic interface and we'd be ordering Win8 on new client PCs.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.



twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
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Absolutely. I won't be installing it here, windows 7 runs fine and people don't have to use metro.

We are running mostly server 2012 at this point, thankfully you dont need the GUI or metro to administrate it for the most part.
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