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sarahportman

join:2012-10-31

are 800 numbers free on prepaid cell phones ?

I used to be charged in my voice stream cell phone every time I call an 800 or toll free number. Now I have T-Mobile on a Nokia phone with prepaid service. When I make a call to a 800 number will count me minutes off the service. Does know anybody know this? Thats how what I know.

All replies are appreciated.

rnet1

join:2003-10-14

If you are on a plan that charges minutes, then yes, even calls to toll free numbers will use those minutes. If you are on a monthly unlimited plan, then all of the calls are included and won't charge anything additional.


ConstantineM

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reply to sarahportman

said by sarahportman:

… All replies are appreciated.

Hello! I don't know. Why don't you check and tell us? :-) LOL.


crazyk4952
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reply to sarahportman
What does this have to do with VOIP?


ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA

Maybe the OP has a prototype LTE device with VoLTE?


SCADAGeo

join:2012-11-08
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said by sarahportman:

I have T-Mobile on a Nokia phone with prepaid service. When I make a call to a 800 number will count me minutes off the service. Does know anybody know this?

Yes, it will count against your prepaid minutes.

Calling #999# on a T-Mobile prepaid plan will display the account balance.

sokhapkin
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reply to sarahportman
No, all minutes count against your prepaid balance. You pay for minutes, but not for called numbers.
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sarahportman

join:2012-10-31

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said by sokhapkin:

No, all minutes count against your prepaid balance. You pay for minutes, but not for called numbers.

Ouch for my bills!

said by rnet1:

If you are on a plan that charges minutes, then yes, even calls to toll free numbers will use those minutes. If you are on a monthly unlimited plan, then all of the calls are included and won't charge anything additional.

Thanks for this. Even I call a toll free number there will no additional in unlimited plan?

toro

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Basically Toll Free doesn't mean that a call is completely free. It means you don't pay long distance charges when you call somebody in a a different state (or any area you would normally pay long distance charges if you called). You still pay whatever airtime charges that you would pay for a local call.
So there are no charges when you call from a regular land line that has unlimited local calls or from a cell plan that has unlimited local calling.
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said by toro:

Basically Toll Free doesn't mean that a call is completely free. It means you don't pay long distance charges when you call somebody in a a different state (or any area you would normally pay long distance charges if you called). You still pay whatever airtime charges that you would pay for a local call.
So there are no charges when you call from a regular land line that has unlimited local calls or from a cell plan that has unlimited local calling.

That depends on the country. I could never quite figure out if 0800 numbers in the UK are free to call from the mobiles, or whether they'll dip into your minutes. Of course, most company numbers in the UK are not 0800, but 0845 or 0870 instead, and those are supposed to be equivalent to local and regional calls; except that with VoIP, at least with Vonage back in the day, you'd have to be paying quite some extra to be calling these "free" 0845 numbers. :-(

toro

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I don't know about UK, but in some other Eastern European countries where they have such toll free numbers, it's free to call them from a land line but they still eat up your minutes when you call from a cell phone.
There are also numbers that sound somewhat equivalent to the 0845 and 0870 you described, which you can dial anywhere in the country but they will call the local regional office of the area where you're calling from.
In Canada there is something similar to those regional numbers, the 310-xxxx numbers. Those are only 7 digits long and can be called even in areas where 10 digit dialing is enforced otherwise. For example 310-BELL for Bell Canada and 310-1010 for Pizza Hut
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sarahportman

join:2012-10-31

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Re: are 800 numbers free on prepaid cell phones ?

said by toro:

Basically Toll Free doesn't mean that a call is completely free. It means you don't pay long distance charges when you call somebody in a a different state (or any area you would normally pay long distance charges if you called). You still pay whatever airtime charges that you would pay for a local call.
So there are no charges when you call from a regular land line that has unlimited local calls or from a cell plan that has unlimited local calling.

I see now. So its not literally a free call. So to say its free you have to avail an unlimited phone call service.

PX Eliezer
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"Toll-Free" calls are a creation of the POTS world.

Inward WATS (wide area telephone service) was introduced by AT&T (Bell System) in 1967, long before you were born and long before VoIP or even the internet was born.

VoIP companies were never part of the deal. It wasn't their idea, it wasn't their doing, and most importantly, VoIP companies have completely different economics than the POTS companies did in the good old days.

AT&T (Bell System) for example controlled 85 percent of the US phone market, and also essentially handled ALL of the long-distance traffic, under one roof. Very different flow of money than today.

So VoIP providers (and for that matter prepaid cell phone resellers) are under NO obligation to re-create the world of 1967 for your benefit. They can and will make their own arrangements to handle so-called TF calls.


OZO
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reply to sarahportman
Call to a toll free number service may take many minutes (30 or sometimes even 60). If you concern about the air minutes that it will take form you and you have a smart phone you may want to use SIP toll free providers. 1. Install SIP client on your smart phone. 2. Configure it to make outbound calls to those providers. 3. Make a call to 1-800 (866, 877, etc) number. You'll have to have free WiFi around...
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PX Eliezer
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Excellent idea as long as the person has free WiFi access.

Someone like »www.alcazarnetworks.com/termination_tf.php to make those 800-type calls.



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reply to PX Eliezer
When I say "WATS line", people look at me like my hair is on fire.
How soon we forget.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHtZZgQV3IM

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said by nunya:

When I say "WATS line", people look at me like my hair is on fire.

I guarantee you some kids would retro confuse it with an even older reference, "What's My Line".

During the hurricane we found out that younger people did not know what a percolator was, especially a percolator that you could put in the fireplace.

And my wife works with people in their late 20's who never heard of breadmaking machines, even though these are widely sold today.

said by nunya:

When I say "WATS line", people look at me like my hair is on fire.

Heck, tell them you're gonna call the Operator to request a call to an Enterprise or Zenith number!

hardly
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reply to nunya
Couldn't resist this:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=pArBEnKcoMw

PX Eliezer
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If you want to silence the ringer on your Shoe phone, guess you need Hush puppies.


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