 PacketeersPremium
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Forest Hills, NY
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 ·Time Warner Cable
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| do non-USA outlet VPNs defeat this? if you are on a VPN that outlets to Europe using an OpenVPN client and keep SSL intact during browsing, would that prevent the US government from accumulating all your online activity? sure that outlet country could have it (and find you if they could get the vpn provider to give them your mac address), but it seems only USA is still post-9/11 hysterical enough to bother. |
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| said by Packeteers:if you are on a VPN that outlets to Europe using an OpenVPN client and keep SSL intact during browsing, would that prevent the US government from accumulating all your online activity? sure that outlet country could have it (and find you if they could get the vpn provider to give them your mac address), but it seems only USA is still post-9/11 hysterical enough to bother.
VPN cant save you from the government cause they can setup a honey pot. People like to think they have security and everything's private but really you cant hide behind tor or VPN if the government is REALLY looking for you. |
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PacketeersPremium
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| that really was not my point.
the question is - does a non-usa outlet vpn circumvent the usa from accumulating all your usual data traffic, since they can still capture all your data packets coming off your mac address, but it will be SSL encrypted AND vpn encrypt jacketed jibberish, not something they could easially keyword search or catalog about you.
not - does it prevent a determined security agency from finding you out. |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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said by Packeteers:if you are on a VPN that outlets to Europe using an OpenVPN client and keep SSL intact during browsing, would that prevent the US government from accumulating all your online activity?
Bits is bits, encrypted, or not. If the bits traverse U.S. carrier networks, they get scarfed up.
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 danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | said by NormanS:said by Packeteers:if you are on a VPN that outlets to Europe using an OpenVPN client and keep SSL intact during browsing, would that prevent the US government from accumulating all your online activity?
Bits is bits, encrypted, or not. If the bits traverse U.S. carrier networks, they get scarfed up. getting scarfed up being able to read. They would have gigabits of encrypted traffic that they would have to decrypt somehow and right quick if they want anything useful in a meaningful time frame to be able to act on it.... |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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| said by danclan:getting scarfed up being able to read.
How do you figure? (My first read put an, "is" in your comment; made more sense that way. Not sure, on re-read, what you are saying.)
They would have gigabits of encrypted traffic that they would have to decrypt somehow and right quick if they want anything useful in a meaningful time frame to be able to act on it....
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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