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Fill it with regular or jet fuel?

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Mistaken jet fuel delivery shuts two gasoline stations in Monmouth County

Police shut down two Monmouth County gasoline stations on Friday that each received deliveries of jet fuel.

At least seven customers of the Delta station on Route 36 in Keyport reported damage to their vehicles, police Chief George Casaletto said.

Police in Manasquan, where the Route 71 Lukoil station also received the jet fuel, said Saturday afternoon they hadn't received any damage reports yet.

Casaletto said there are no criminal charges for what he called "a mistaken delivery." The gasoline station will be responsible for any damage, he said.

More - »www.app.com/article/20121208/NJN···2080042/

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So what happened to the tankers that were supposed to go to the gas stations? Did they wind up in the airport?

The entire episode lends itself to lots of jokes, like: After filling up, my car drove better then ever, but my commute home was delayed by 3 hours and rerouted via Cleveland!

reply to Bob
Smoke like crazy and run like crap.... Jet fuel is basically kerosene - a car engine won't run with it...
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interesting enough though if they had filled the diesel tanks, I bet nobody would notice. I Have heard that diesels can run on Jet Fuel.

But I imagine there would be far more danger here if the other truck went to an airport and someone filled a jet with 93 octane gas.(then again maybe not, a turbine engine will run on pretty much anything that burns.)
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Outside of powering aircraft, JP-8 is used as a fuel for heaters, stoves,[1] tanks,[2] by the U.S. military as a replacement for diesel fuel in the engines of nearly all tactical ground vehicles and electrical generators, and as a coolant in engines and some other aircraft components. The use of a single fuel greatly simplifies logistics.

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reply to Bob
There are different class/grades of jet fuel. It depends on which one it was. JP4 is gasoline and kerosene 50/50 mix. Then you have Jet-A which is a highly refined kerosene, Jet-B which is naphtha-kerosene mix, and so on. Diesels would have better results verses gas vehicles with any that didn't have gasoline in them, but performance would vary in the diesels.

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Three more stations got the wrong fuel:

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Three Mercer County gas stations pumped aviation fuel instead of regular gas

Three gas stations in Mercer County unwittingly received and pumped aviation gasoline or jet fuel over the weekend, filling some drivers' cars with a product that can damage automobile engines.

The gas was mistakenly delivered over the weekend to several stations around the state, including locations in Trenton and Lawrence, which were subsequently closed for inspection, Mercer County spokeswoman Julie Willmot said.

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The state Division of Consumer Affairs, which oversees weights and measures issues, was unable to provide any information on the mistaken gas delivery, such as the name of the gasoline supplier, when the fuel was delivered, and whether the substance was aviation gasoline or jet fuel, which are different products.

More - »www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2012···tio.html

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And two more stations that got aviation fuel - »www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/20···ons.html

reply to Bob
How exactly a jet fuel can 'damage' a gasoline engine?

I know that gasoline in a diesel can do some bad things, but I haven't seen the opposite.
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Jet fuel fouls the emission system, and coats the spark plugs with oily deposits.
Sort of like what would occur if you put 2-stroke mix into a car, but worse...

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Misfires can damage the cat converter, O2 and Air/Fuel ratio sensors can be contaminated.
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reply to Bob
I wonder what would happen if a gas station got true AvGas, that 100+ octane gasoline used in something like a cessna as I know those are piston engines with spark plugs so guessing they just use very high octane gasoline.
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State confirms six N.J. gas stations distributed aviation fuel

NEWARK -- Six gas stations in the state received aviation fuel by mistake and sold it to motorists before the stations were shut down, the state’s Division of Consumer Affairs announced Wednesday.

Gas stations in Keyport, North Plainfield, Trenton, Manasquan, Scotch Plains and Lawrenceville received 104.7-octane fuel, compared to the 93-octane fuel, which is used in super unleaded gasoline, according to a news release. Approximately eight tankers delivered the aviation fuel between Dec. 5 and Dec. 7.

Pasmel Property, based in Freehold, owned all six stations and the only affected fuel was super-unleaded, according to the state. The company is removing all gasoline from its tanks at the six locations and cleaning the dispensing systems before Weights and Measures will allow them to reopen.

Aviation fuel is used in propeller-driven aircrafts and is different than jet fuel, according to the state. It does contain a small amount of lead, which is not found in car gasoline, however consumer affairs said they consulted with automotive professionals and it should not cause damage to vehicle engines.

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reply to Bob
this might sound like a dumb question.

what benefit does lead have in gas? as someone born in 1980 I have only known unleaded fuel, All i know is it was something to do with high compression engines needed lead.
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It was mostly used as an octane booster. It also protected the valve seats on older cars. It was phased out because it was a pollutant. In today's cars, it would plug up the catalytic converter rather quickly.