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MyDogHsFleas
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reply to jc100

Re: "You Have Absolutely No Privacy" - DUH!

said by jc100:

Obama gave the NSA wiretapping program a blanket immunity.

No, the bill passed by Congress, signed by 2 presidents, and upheld by the courts, gave immunity for civil lawsuits to corporations who legally cooperated with the other provisions of the bill. There is no immunity to unlawful acts by corporations or the government.


KrK
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Again with the splitting of hairs. The Telcos were given blanket immunity from CIVIL LAWSUITS regarding the formerly ILLEGAL actions of the Corporations and Government.

In effect complete immunity as a citizen cannot bring criminal charges vs anyone--- only a civil case.

End result: Everyone got away with it.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini


MyDogHsFleas
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said by KrK:

Again with the splitting of hairs. The Telcos were given blanket immunity from CIVIL LAWSUITS regarding the formerly ILLEGAL actions of the Corporations and Government.

In effect complete immunity as a citizen cannot bring criminal charges vs anyone--- only a civil case.

End result: Everyone got away with it.

Almost correct. The actions were not "formerly illegal". They were legal, by definition. The 3 branches of government decide what is legal. Bill passed by congress, signed by 2 presidents, upheld by courts.

As a citizen you cannot bring criminal charges, correct. No matter how strongly you believe something is illegal, it's not your call. Except indirectly, by voting for your representatives. That's fundamental to our justice system. It's not "splitting hairs". How would you like it if some random guy could haul you into criminal court for whatever?

Unfortunately IMO there are many who hold that the "death by 1000 lawsuits" tactic is righteous when they believe their cause is just. I find it a shockingly inefficient way for a minority to try to impose its will.


KrK
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said by MyDogHsFleas:

Almost correct. The actions were not "formerly illegal". They were legal, by definition. The 3 branches of government decide what is legal. Bill passed by congress, signed by 2 presidents, upheld by courts.

*Retroactively after the deeds were done*

Formerly illegal. Now, legal...
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini