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Re: [BC] Horrendous YouTube performance Sounds too me like you have been using too much bandwidth on youtube and shaw has decided to throttle you. You must watch a shit ton of youtube. I have dozens of reports of them doing it with netflix, but this is the first time I have heard of them doing it with youtube. I don't think its technically called throlling, they are doing something sneaky and different, probably so they can honestly claim its not throttling. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 | Shaw doesn't throttle downstream connections, none, no where.
It is even in their terms of service, and Shaw isn't stupid enough to violate their own terms when they have enough lawyers for customers. -- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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 | That's just fucking bullshit. Their terms of service is a pile of lies and trash. I get throttled every time i try to leave p2p on for more than 10 hours, to the point where i can't even use the internet. I have seen it happen so many times. When i watch too much netflix they also throttle me so i can't get any decent kind of quality. $200 a month for internet that performs worse than @home did in 98. Go go capitalistic monopoles go. |
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 | said by Jopono :That's just fucking bullshit. Their terms of service is a pile of lies and trash. This, unfortunately for our excited friend, is not accurate. Shaw doesn't throttle downloads. |
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 | reply to Jopono said by Jopono :That's just fucking bullshit. Their terms of service is a pile of lies and trash. I get throttled every time i try to leave p2p on for more than 10 hours, to the point where i can't even use the internet. I have seen it happen so many times. When i watch too much netflix they also throttle me so i can't get any decent kind of quality. $200 a month for internet that performs worse than @home did in 98. Go go capitalistic monopoles go. Feel free to switch to Telus, by all means.  |
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 | In his defence: He clearly loves the internet and wants it to be speedy. I encourage that. |
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 | reply to Slack Regardless, his "speed issues" could very well be on his side of the Shaw device, not a congestion or line issue. Simply bashing Shaw for slow speeds, I usually encourage people to switch to Telus to feel the real definition of slow speeds. Especially when you only qualify for a 6Mb profile  |
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 | Yeah. That does suck. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 | reply to rustydusty Or 3... Which was all I qualified for last time last time I had Telus.
Switched default-gateways while tech support was remoted into my computer, and he asked me what I did to get such fast speeds, because downloading at 250 kb/s was perfectly acceptable and great speeds, switched to 25, and he was amazed the internet could be that fast... -- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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| reply to rustydusty said by rustydusty:Regardless, his "speed issues" could very well be on his side of the Shaw device, not a congestion or line issue. Simply bashing Shaw for slow speeds, I usually encourage people to switch to Telus to feel the real definition of slow speeds. Especially when you only qualify for a 6Mb profile  Don't know if that statement always holds true, rusty
Went to my brothers house the other day. He got telus gpon the other week, I was impressed. He had 50/10 I beleive. Not sure what the limit for Gpon is but he has no prime time slow down. They converted the whole town to fiber to the house. Kinda want to move to Comox. lol
Can't wait for it to hit my area. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 1 edit | Fiber to the house, and all they can do is 50/10?
They are doing that with a DSL varient in some places...
rustydusty didn't say it would allways hold true, only that "could very well be on his side"
-- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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 | reply to Slack That is pathetic for gpon. There's a local community in AB that is doing a fiber roll out to the entire town and is planning on offering symmetrical 50x50 on gpon, just to start with. The availability of gpon on Telus side is extremely limited, also VDSL2 is extremely limited by distance from the DSLAM. At my old place I barely qualified for the 25Mb, and only got it due to a Telus tech on this site. Also, their hardware is crap. The V1000h is crap, and I personally had 3 failures. Last one being 4 days due to a long weekend. Those 4 days I have no TV or internet, as Telus rely's on a single point of failure for two services. The v2000h which is being put in now doesn't look promising either. I've actually had Telus within the past year, and my opinion is based on personal facts and not just speculation. If Telus provided descent hardware that could be bridged, they might have a mediocre service. |
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 | Rusty do you happen to know what the speed limits are for GPON? I can't seem to find much info. I was reading 1/1 Gbps |
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 | reply to Slack The only real limitation for fiber in general is the equipment on either end. |
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 tablo join:2011-06-30 Edmonton, AB | reply to Slack Very slow lately. When I look at the video info, it doesn't even reach 10mbps. |
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 | reply to spock said by spock:Rusty do you happen to know what the speed limits are for GPON? I can't seem to find much info. I was reading 1/1 Gbps I'll take this as I have a lot of experience with high speed optical networks.
GPON standards being deployed these days (ITU is the standards org) is generally GPON: ~2.5 down / ~1.25 up. 10G-PON is usually 10 down / 2.5 up. Other bitrate combinations are available in the standards. I say approx above, because to me it looks like the rates were originally based on matching ATM at OC-48 on the downstream.
EPON standards are generally: 1/1 symmetric. 10G-EPON was standardized as 10 down / 1 up. But I've heard of 10 down / 2.5 up, and symmetric 10 down / 10 up from vendors as well. |
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