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slajoh01

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Java Updates/Java SE 6 Update 38/Java SE 7u10

Please dont forget those Java updates as well.

»www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···dex.html



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Note that this is NOT currently listed as patching any security-related issues. It still has the same vulnerabilities as 7u9/6u37. However, there are supposedly some security-related enhancements in 7u10 only (not in 6u38). See the Release Notes:

Java™ SE Development Kit 7 Update 10 Release Notes
»www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···995.html
Java™ SE Development Kit 7, Update 10 (JDK 7u10)

The full version string for this update release is 1.7.0_10-b18 (where "b" means "build") and the version number is 7u10.
Highlights

This update release contains the following enhancements:

Additional Certified System Configurations
Security Feature Enhancements

Olson Data 2012i

JDK 7u10 contains Olson time zone data version 2012i. For more information, refer to Timezone Data Versions in the JRE Software.
Security Baselines

The security baselines for the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) at the time of the release of JDK 7u10 are specified in the following table:
JRE Family Version/JRE Security Baseline
7 / 1.7.0_09
6 / 1.6.0_37
...
Security Feature Enhancements

The JDK 7u10 release includes the following enhancements:

* The ability to disable any Java application from running in the browser. This mode can be set in the Java Control Panel or (on Microsoft Windows platform only) using a command-line install argument.
* The ability to select the desired level of security for unsigned applets, Java Web Start applications, and embedded JavaFX applications that run in a browser. Four levels of security are supported. This feature can be set in the Java Control Panel or (on Microsoft Windows platform only) using a command-line install argument.
* New dialogs to warn you when the JRE is insecure (either expired or below the security baseline) and needs to be updated.

For more information, see Setting the Level of Security for the Java Client** and Java Control Panel**.
[**Links on the "Release Notes" page.]

See also:
Java™ SE Development Kit 6 Update 38 Release Notes
»www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···997.html
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Thanks!
EDIT: A couple minor GUI changes...






Mele20
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I download from here:

»java.com/en/download/index.jsp

It is still at version 9. I will wait.

Edit: Internal update button offered me the me new version so I went ahead and installed it. The website is just slow to be updated I guess.



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said by Mele20:

I download from here:

»java.com/en/download/index.jsp

It is still at version 9. I will wait.

Edit: Internal update button offered me the me new version so I went ahead and installed it. The website is just slow to be updated I guess.

Noticed that as well. I went to this webpage

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
 

and as the picture above shows, Java is saying that Version 7 Update 9 is the "current" version that you can download. I also verified that the files you can download are still V7U9, and the Digital Signature tab and Details tab matches what was released back in October.

Any idea when the web page will be updated with 7U10?

EDIT
Wanted to update this post with a 2nd picture. I went to the main java page, then clicked on the link "Do I have Java", and then the button "Verify Java Version". The results are posted above in the 2nd picture. Looks like the recommended Java version is still Version 7 Update 9.

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I did the update which was offered by the update check in the Java control panel and once update 10 was installed, sure enough, the Java control panel was no longer displayed. This is in XP SP3. I recall this was something that happened with Win 7 recently. Anyway, it's not a huge deal and I may look into this later on.

OK. I just went to the Java folder and created a shortcut to the control panel. No big deal. I don't know why they don't have it displayed by default but whatever.
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I've always downloaded from here and never Java.com:

»www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···dex.html



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Good to know about that 2nd download location.

Just wondering why it is taking so long for things to show up on the Java webpage. This is, after all, a Java update! I would think the primary source would be Java.com.

Not to mention, why does their own webpage not inform you that an update exists. I would think that, when I ran the utility to check my java version, it would come back and tell me that I needed to download and install Java Version 7 Update 10, and not tell me that Java 7 Update Version 9 was the "current" version.

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said by rcdailey:

I did the update which was offered by the update check in the Java control panel and once update 10 was installed, sure enough, the Java control panel was no longer displayed. This is in XP SP3. I recall this was something that happened with Win 7 recently. Anyway, it's not a huge deal and I may look into this later on.

OK. I just went to the Java folder and created a shortcut to the control panel. No big deal. I don't know why they don't have it displayed by default but whatever.

Are you talking about the Java Icon(s) in the control panel, or something else? (See screenshot above).

The only thing that I have always wondered is why when you install both versions (x86 and x64), you only get one Control Panel Icon, not to mention there is a slight difference in functionally. In the x86 one, there is the additional "Update" Tab. If you do install both, and install the x86 one first, and then the x64, you won't be able to turn off automatic updates (unless of course you do that after x86 and before x64).

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said by plencnerb:

The only thing that I have always wondered is why when you install both versions (x86 and x64), you only get one Control Panel Icon...

Because they share the same settings. Make changes to the x86 and the x64 settings are changed also. In short only one Control Panel applet is needed.

BTW on Vista/Win7 (x86/x64) the Java settings are in

C:\Users\Username\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\deployment.properties
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32 Bit

64 Bit
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While that may be true, there are still differences.

For example, the removal of the "Update" Tab from the 64 bit version that is present in the 32 bit one (See pictures)

Also, on the "Java Runtime Environment Settings" screen, you can only update the settings for the last one you installed. If you have both, and want to make changes to both directories, you cannot do that. This is in reference to where the "javaw.exe" is located, and if you want to enable / disable a given platform. The last picture I posted only shows the directory and info for the 64 bit, but I do have both installed.

--Brian


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said by plencnerb:

If you have both, and want to make changes to both directories, you cannot do that.

Because they use/share the same "deployment.properties" file.

FYI on some versions of Windows the Control Panel applet won't let you change the cache folder at all (greyed out). You can edit the "deployment.properties" file (plain text) manually to do it though.

quote:
deployment.user.cachedir=pathname

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said by plencnerb:

While that may be true, there are still differences.

For example, the removal of the "Update" Tab from the 64 bit version that is present in the 32 bit one (See pictures)

Also, on the "Java Runtime Environment Settings" screen, you can only update the settings for the last one you installed. If you have both, and want to make changes to both directories, you cannot do that. This is in reference to where the "javaw.exe" is located, and if you want to enable / disable a given platform. The last picture I posted only shows the directory and info for the 64 bit, but I do have both installed.

--Brian

Java website has historically been slow in getting updates. After it did not show the latest version, I did a "check for updates" (that was disabled in java panel) in Java panel in Control Panel. It fetched the new version which I installed. I removed the check mark (which gets put back if you check for updates from the Java panel) to check automatically. Everything is fine. That is, until just now, as I was reading the new posts in this thread and decided to open Java in Control Panel again. The check mark to check automatically was back! ??? Maybe I dreamed that I removed it after I got the update...but maybe you can't permanently remove it in Windows 8. I have to keep an eye on it.

When I got this new computer, I only installed the 32 bit version. Why do I need the 64 bit one also? Most programs are 32 bit.
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said by Mele20:

Why do I need the 64 bit one also? Most programs are 32 bit.

If you use a 64-bit browser (IE comes in both 32 and 64-bit versions) you need the 64-bit version of Java for it (it won't see or use 32-bit Java). But as you said most browsers are (still) 32-bit so it probably isn't necessary.
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IE comes in both 32 and 64 bit? So, do I have both on my Windows 8? I rarely use IE and I don't like IE 10. I sort of liked IE 8 that I have on a virtual machine. IE is just horrible for tabs ....still.

I use Fx, Sea Monkey and Opera and they are 32 bit. Mozilla recently dropped development of Fx 64 bit.
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said by plencnerb:

Good to know about that 2nd download location.

Just wondering why it is taking so long for things to show up on the Java webpage. This is, after all, a Java update! I would think the primary source would be Java.com.

Not to mention, why does their own webpage not inform you that an update exists. I would think that, when I ran the utility to check my java version, it would come back and tell me that I needed to download and install Java Version 7 Update 10, and not tell me that Java 7 Update Version 9 was the "current" version.

--Brian

I hear this question a lot.
And it's posted in nearly every Java update thread,
"I launched Java control panel settings clicked check for updates and it says I have the latest? What's going on? I went to Java.com and it says I have the latest? Something must be wrong??"
It's because the other link at Oracle.com is intended for end users/developers and system administrators for the latest bleeding edge updates. Java.com will never eventually offer the latest updates and has always been geared towards the average typical user. Oracle.com has many different Java revisions, builds, updates...ect.. that will quite frankly NEVER even make it to Java.com. I want the latest builds the moment their posted.

I can't wait on Java.com to see if they'll offer the latest revision 4 or 5 months later?
EDIT: For clarity.
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No, I got the LATEST version (same as at Oracle.com) by simply opening Java panel in Control panel and pressing "Check for Updates Now". So, the average user can easily get the latest version that Oracle puts out even if java.com is slow in updating and shows an older version.
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said by Mele20:

So, do I have both on my Windows 8?

You should. My Win7 x64 box has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of IE9.
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said by Mele20:

No, I got the LATEST version (same as at Oracle.com) by simply opening Java panel in Control panel and pressing "Check for Updates Now". So, the average user can easily get the latest version that Oracle puts out even if java.com is slow in updating and shows an older version.

Not always the case. Past threads indicate that the latest versions appear on Oracle.com first... waaay sooner than Java.com. The internal update mechanism has been sketchy at best in detecting if there is a later more recent build. Java.com has never been the most reliable in obtaining the latest version of Java. Past threads on this will prove this to be the case. I am glad however that the update mechanism gave you the latest update, a little later. The updater has not always been reliable.
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I am confused. You are saying that when I opened Java Panel on Control Panel and pressed the "Check for Updates Now" button that it checked at java.com? I don't see why it would do that. I think it got the update directly from Oracle as Java.com still was showing the old version.

My point is don't use oracle.com or java.com. Enter the Java panel on Control panel (where you should have automatic updating unchecked) and press "Check for Updates Now" as that is how I got the latest version when this thread was first posted.
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said by StuartMW:

said by Mele20:

So, do I have both on my Windows 8?

You should. My Win7 x64 box has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of IE9.

How do I tell which version of IE is being used? It doesn't say in "About IE".

I guess 32 bit is what I have on Win 8 because I only have 32 bit version of Java and IE 10 just did a speed test that requires Java. Java is not built into IE 10 is it (like Flash is)?
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IE9 64-bit
On my Win7 x64 box I have two shortcuts (pre-installed).

Internet Explorer (64-bit)
Internet Explorer

IE10 does come in a 64-bit version (»www.microsoft.com/en-us/download···id=35709) but perhaps it wasn't pre-installed by Dell on your Win8 machine.
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I don't know how you update your systems but I don't use any part of the update mechanism (not even the Check for Updates Now) as I disabled it on my rigs. I just go to Oracle.com to obtain the latest builds when reported. If the update mechanism works for you, great! Whether the updater checks Java.com or Oracle.com... I don't know. But there have been many update threads in the past that have shown that it did not always work to correctly detect an updated build. But if there is an update to Java online, you can bet it will already be on Oracle.com before it hits Java.com. As you yourself pointed out earlier in the thread.
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My About IE doesn't say whether it is 32 bit or 64 bit.


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Anybody having trouble with this update and Firefox?

I updated and Firefox lost Java. I checked the FF plugins and it wants to download the plugin for 7u9 again.



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said by Mele20:

My About IE doesn't say whether it is 32 bit or 64 bit.

Well the 32-bit version of IE9 doesn't say anything either.
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said by DrStrange:

Anybody having trouble with this update and Firefox?

No issue here with FF v17.0.1 and Java SE 7u10.

Did you uninstall the previous Java version first (with FF closed)?
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No. Never had to do that before.

I already tried uninstalling 7u10 and re-installing. I'll try rolling back to 7u9, then uninstalling that and installing 7u10. If that doesn't work, I'll have to find an uninstaller or muck around in the registry and delete all the keys which pertain to Java Runtime.

EDIT: Rolling back to 7u9, uninstalling that and then installing 7u10 worked.



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I think you have to have "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode" enabled in IE advanced options in order to use IE10 64-bit desktop. After you enable Enhanced Protected Mode, incompatible add-ons will automatically be disabled. If you encounter a site that needs an add-on such as Flash in order to work, you can disable Enhanced Protected Mode just for that particular Web site. I can't remember if the about window would tell you afterwards?
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Sigh...I have about 120 tabs open (great thing about Win 8 and Fx 10 ESR...it runs tons of tabs with no problems unlike on XP Pro) and I can't find the one where I have half a post already written in this thread in reply to you. (If thumbnails were working in the tabs I could locate it easier).

Anyhow, I checked in Explorer and I have both versions of IE and I am using 64 bit version that I patched yesterday. (I didn't think about needing to download the 32 bit patch also).

I also checked Java Panel and it shows in Advanced tab that Java is enabled for IE but grayed out so you cannot unenable it.

Then I went and read some articles and evidently, IE 10 (not just Metro version that I uninstalled but also desktop version) no longer uses plugins. So, I guess that is why it is grayed out in Java Panel. I also read of users complaining that Java won't work on IE 10. Maybe Web 100 sites (that is what I did for a speed test) that use Java applet are using HTML 5 or something for IE 10? I did not see the Java applet coffee cup load before the test started. It just ran when I clicked on start.

I just now did a Visualware MySpeed test (new server at Bakersfield, CA) using IE 10. That is a Java test and Java speed tests are the only reason I have Java. It ran just fine (again no indication that Java applet was loading). I'm sure Visualware is still using only Java for speed tests as they feel strongly about this. So, how am I able to use Java without a plugin on IE 10? Did Microsoft add Java to IE builtin just before Win 8 release or what????
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