 dbirdmanPremium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
usa
kudos:5 | reply to mogamer
Re: Gen4/Changes Coming After Jan 1 said by mogamer:Charlie Ergan controls both Echostar and Dish. Technically they are separate companies; but come on, you're smart enough to know the reality of the situation.
You are talking about logical partnering, benefitting both companies largely owned by one individual. That is vastly different than one company owning another, where the officers of the owning company can and do dictate to the owned company.
You might as well say that HughesNet owns DISH Networks, it would be an extension of the same logic.
There are a huge number of companies in this country that are owned by other companies, and they may form partnerships, get sold off, etc., but they don't necessarily own one another. For example, you would be unlikely to say that Benjamin Moore Paints owns Sees Candies just because Warren Buffett controls both.
Of course sometimes an owner will choose to put one company under another, such as when Rupert Murdoch bought Hughes Electronics from GM. The various Hughes companies were sisters to other elements such as DirecTV and PanamSat, and Murdoch chose to put them all under DirecTV and eventually sell them piece-by-piece. Such actions are public knowledge when the company is publicly traded, so if Charlie ever puts Hughes under DISH it will be widely known.
In the meantime there is a logical synergism between DISH and Hughes, and both would be crazy not to exploit that.
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Dish's recent partnership with ViaSat should have been enough proof that Dish and Hughes operate separately. |
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1 | reply to monicakm
said by monicakm:Not only that, but at the very least, it was RUDE to show up unannounced,in an unmarked truck and walking around my house. Not good business and around here, it could get you shot.
Remind me not to live in your area.
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 diablo1892Say hello to my little friend
join:2011-04-21
Friendly, WV | reply to TexasRebel
Hmmm... Well its been over atleast 2 days now, so how about that Gen4 service? Is it good or what?? (: |
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No improvement after the first? Not terribly surprising.
My guess is Hughes hoped December 21st would be the last day they would have to offer service and didn't have a backup plan. |
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peg645
join:2012-07-31
Cherry Valley, NY | reply to monicakm
Re: Gen4/Changes Coming After Jan 1 - not just Gen 4!! Add me to the list of those disgusted with Hughesnet, after strong support for years...
Have had Hughesnet fairly successfully for most of the past 11 years since I've lived in this house - upstate NY rural location, SW of Albany.
As of Jan 1, my service has been HORRIBLE. I've been on the phone 4 days this week. Played the little reboot/clear cache dance, and even now know enough to do force ranging, which previously cleared up my old occasional issues. 2 calls to techies this week and miracle of miracles, my signal would return. Today can't even begin to get through. 3 phone calls to 3 different departments totaling over a half hour, without one live person.
I did not fall for the Gen4 upgrade, after reading the negative reviews, as frankly I ONLY do business from home for the most part - mostly e-mails, browsing, etc., and when everything slows done past 3pm, I'm pretty much done for the day.
But this week? I am fine at 7am. But the slow down begins at 10:30AM?
My contract expired 3 years ago. Never a late payment. Any thought they are trying to strong arm those who didn't sign up for Gen4?!?
Going to a McDonalds - 15 miles away - for WiFi  |
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 kma
@direcway.com | NEED HELP!! i am completely NEW to all this...bps question i bought an OOMA phone.
long distance calls are awful for the receiver.
OOMA customer svc needs my internet speed to make it better.
what do i tell them?
Gen4 hughes ht1000
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 gwalkPremium
join:2005-07-27
Rothbury, MI | VOIP doesn't work very well with Hughesnet.
Actually Hughesnet doesn't work very well.
Hughesnet's overseas support is very sad.
Hughesnet's support website consists of:
Massive censorship of user comments
Please post a case number
That's a great conversation !
Please post a case number
It Must be your computer
Please post a case number
Back to reality here, the fact is Hughesnet just doesn't work very well and the new Gen4 system seems to be having many ongoing problems.
At best Hughesnet can only be described as "Internet Lite"
Casual browsing and checking of e-mail is OK.....sometimes. |
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kma - VOIP (Skype, OOMA etc) does not work well on satellite internet of any kind, voice IN is usually ok, but voice OUT is frequently garbled, not much you can do about it...............sorry 
(I've had the best luck with Skype)
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diablo1892Say hello to my little friend
join:2011-04-21
Friendly, WV | reply to gwalk
Last night I did some heavy gaming (did surprisingly well) and am just about preparing for another crysis 2 gameplay night. |
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gwalkPremium
join:2005-07-27
Rothbury, MI | Thats cool diablo,
However you know Hughesnet, it depends on THIS minute.
They "fix" one thing and break eight others. By the time you go "around" the script reading CSR's in India followed by "post a case #" and all the other dodge ball tactics they will have launched a even newer system that is GARR UN TEEDED to blow you away.
I am glad it worked for you. |
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diablo1892Say hello to my little friend
join:2011-04-21
Friendly, WV | Don't be surprised if they do launch another satellite in say a year (or less) call it Gen5(: haha
Another problem added and a problem fixed, for now but not for long. (if they do launch another. |
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| they won't be launching sheit. if you look past the corporate cheerleading and the Wall Street fake gains, once the financial collapse happens, having internet access will be the least of your concerns. |
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diablo1892Say hello to my little friend
join:2011-04-21
Friendly, WV Reviews:
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btw I wonder if this is even accurate anymore or even was in the first place "Supported by 3,751 customers like you" I'm guessing the true number of the customers dropped by now since Hughes is getting so many complaints and law suits. I'm not filing a law suit cause Hughes is the only thing I got right now (samething with most of the other customers) |
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Re: Gen4/Changes Coming After Jan 1 - not just Gen 4!! I'm just east of Albany, NY and I share your pain and experiences. I have been with Hughes net for about 15 years. It's the only internet available (and I keep looking). I called support the week before Christmas and was informed that they were performing a system upgrade and that service would be back in a few hours. The support person also informed me that service to my 7000 series modem would be decreasing after the first of the year as they upgraded the network and switched everyone over to Gen4. To be fair to Hughes net, I stayed with my 4000 series modems until June of 2009, when they were no longer supported. It took about 6 weeks to find out I needed the newer 7000 series modems (and a new 2 year contract) to get back on the Hughes network.
ps. Dunkin Dounuts also offers free wireless internet for when you need to Skype or download Windows or Office updates. |
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| said by SalC :I'm just east of Albany, NY and I share your pain and experiences. I have been with Hughes net for about 15 years. It's the only internet available (and I keep looking). I called support the week before Christmas and was informed that they were performing a system upgrade and that service would be back in a few hours. The support person also informed me that service to my 7000 series modem would be decreasing after the first of the year as they upgraded the network and switched everyone over to Gen4. To be fair to Hughes net, I stayed with my 4000 series modems until June of 2009, when they were no longer supported. It took about 6 weeks to find out I needed the newer 7000 series modems (and a new 2 year contract) to get back on the Hughes network.
ps. Dunkin Dounuts also offers free wireless internet for when you need to Skype or download Windows or Office updates.
You can get Exede. Call your local dealer. |
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peg645
join:2012-07-31
Cherry Valley, NY | reply to SalC
Yikes. Started another thread on Hughesnet's forum. Given the "we're sending out a tech no charge" promise today by CS from Brownsville, because I'm such a good customer. I guessed 'why bother?' since there are no issues when the service is available. Now, based on your experience, I'm right. Was even told they may tell them to put a couple of used modems in the truck, in case my modem isn't working...?!? No one has mentioned at all about the 7000 being forced out. Of course, reportedly was the best of the modems, and won't support Gen4.
Where are all the law suits they keep mentioning? Not that I'm really looking to add that to my daily drama. But this certainly cannot be legal to force a change and/or a new contract. I know Excede is here as well, but could that be jumping from the frying pan into the fire? |
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