Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to antdude
Re: Samsung TV vulnerability could let a hacker change the ch. Maybe this is why I got an email just now from Samsung saying they will be updating SmartHub on my TV tonight? Nah...probably just coincidence.
At least I don't have a 2012 Samsung...the 2011 Smart 6000 series does have a web browser (except for the lowest level version of that series) but none of them have cameras or mikes.
Mine's usually connected to the network but hasn't been since I disconnected the Sam Knows router trying to figure out why my two computers couldn't see each other (I left the Linksy router operable). Then the computers can see each other but the TV is offline and I guess that is good after reading the artcle..(but why it is offline I don't know as it is attached to the Linksy router).
I'd like to know if mine is vulnerable as I do want to keep it online (after I figure out what I am doing wrong with the network).
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 Dude111An Awesome DudePremium
join:2003-08-04
USA
kudos:11 | reply to StuartMW
Indeed bud,ME AND MELE HAVE VERY HIGH CONCERNS because we value privacy and we know just how compromised privacy has gotton!
said by Mele20 :
Maybe this is why I got an email just now from Samsung saying they will be updating SmartHub on my TV tonight? Nah...probably just coincidence.
No such thing as COINCIDENCE mele! |
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BobAccount deleted
join:2012-07-22
New Jersey Reviews:
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Re: Samsung TV vulnerability could let a hacker change the ch. said by The Register :
ReVuln says it plans to sell information on the vulnerabilities, rather than report them to equipment manufacturers, in order to "speed up" the development of a fix. Consistent with this general policy, ReVuln is not going into details about the flaws it claims to have discovered.
How convenient. Create some FUD about a device, then charge big bucks for the details of the FUD.
Meanwhile, my Samsung UN40ES6100 is behind a router. How is someone going to get malicious software installed on it? How would they even know I have a Samsung TV in the first place? |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | said by Bob: How is someone going to get malicious software installed on it? I think the crucial detail is that this TV has a built-in web browser. So (1) you need to use the web browser, and (2) browse a bad web site.
I don't have that capability, but my TV has the ability (if I attached an Ethernet cable) to check for firmware updates: I suppose that exposes my TV to the risk that Samsung may have sloppy security on its web server. |
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BobAccount deleted
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New Jersey Reviews:
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| said by dave:I think the crucial detail is that this TV has a built-in web browser. So (1) you need to use the web browser, and (2) browse a bad web site. Using the built-in web browser is slightly less pleasant than getting a root canal. So not much danger there. |
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I have a low tech fix to the high tech problem of them accessing the camera.
Electrical tape over the lens of the camera. Problem fixed. Better yet tape a picture of a hairy old man in front of the camera. give them something to look at. |
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to dave
Or AllShare also you could get infected that way....sharing from your cell phone or various other media.
Hard to use the web browser unless you have 8000 or 9000 series that comes with a keyboard on the back of the Samsung clicker.
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium
join:2000-08-06
Galt's Gulch
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said by Bob: ...my Samsung UN40ES6100 is behind a router. Not only are my "toys" behind a router they're segmented from my computer LAN and firewalled. Even if a hacker got to them I doubt it'd do them much good.
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BobAccount deleted
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New Jersey | reply to Mele20
You can attach USB keyboards, but why bother. Just use a PC to browse the web. |
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said by TheMG:The details of the vulnerability have not been described/released, so I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. Most TVs, including Samsung, don't have a web browser. Just vendor-supplied apps. So no infected page can be visited, the user can only access a handful of vendor-approved services. That leaves only one access avenue, and that is direct access. |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | But this TV has a web browser and this vulnerability is in that web browser.
ReVuln have released enough information to come to that conclusion, even if they haven't given out the whole details.
said by revuln on youtube :
In this video we demonstrate one of our 0-day vulnerabilities affecting Smart TV, in this case a Samsung TV LED 3D. Smart TV can be used to browse the internet, use social networks, purchase movies and do many other things. This demo shows how a vulnerability for such devices can be used to retrieve sensitive information, monitor and root the device itself remotely. |
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| said by dave:But this TV has a web browser and this vulnerability is in that web browser.
ReVuln have released enough information to come to that conclusion, even if they haven't given out the whole details.
Watch the video. The exploit is targeting the IP of the TV. That pretty much confirms what I said. |
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 Woody79_00I run Linux am I still a PC?Premium
join:2004-07-08
united state | For starters, I would NEVER hook a TV up to the internet period....its stupid to do so...Why even bother with a Smart Tv anyways...if you want that kinda functionality, then just By an Xbox 360 or something (that also doubles as a set top box), has a web browser, is updated frequently, and will do pretty much what you want...
hooking a TV up to the internet is bad news...even if it is behind a router...TV that have cameras and microphones attached to them and being hooked up to the net still send packets out and talk to god knows who....the apps you could install may be spying on your TV watching habits and sending that data back somewhere....not to mention Samsung (or some app) could get access to the TV cam and mic and watch and listen to whats going on in your home...no thanks...
My sis just got a smart TV with all that crap in it...the 1st thing i told her was NEVER give it Internet Access period...Smart TV has the ability to spy on their users and the only way to stop it is to keep it disconnected from the Net.....so far she has heeded my advice... |
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BobAccount deleted
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New Jersey | I like the ability to use the DLNA capabilities to stream HD videos from my PC to the TV wirelessly. |
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 sivranOpera ex-patPremium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1 | My recently-purchased LG has DLNA, but oddly enough, no web browser or other "smart" apps. I had it connected for a while, since my NAS box has a DLNA server, but since I have an Asus OPlay the DLNA is largely redundant. It couldn't play as much as the OPlay could anyway.
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said by Dustyn:My Samsung CRT is immune. 
I have an RCA 27" tabletop bought back in the 90s. She is still kicking and don't look to replacing until she completely dies  .
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Can you root a smart tv like you can a phone or tablet? |
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StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium
join:2000-08-06
Galt's Gulch
kudos:2 | Samsung Smart TV's and players are Linux based so yes.
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to Woody79_00
Not all Samsung Smart TVs have a mike or camera. Mine doesn't. It does have a web browser that is very difficult to use without a Samsung keyboard remote. So, I don't use the web browser. I have the TV on the network though. Why would I purchase a Smart TV unless I intended to give it internet access? It would be a complete waste of money. I did waste $100 on the web browser but then Smart TVs were brand new in 2011 and I was curious. Only the lowest in the series came without the web browser anyway and then most were that horrible 3D crap...so there wasn't too much to choose from.
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simple fix. Don't plug it into the internet/network. |
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