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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:35:54 EDT

OZO posted :

said by Mele20:

Windows 8 has ALL versions of .NET from 1.0 through 4.

That's why you need 1TiB drive now. Give m$ your storage and they will fill it right away... :D
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:18:10 EDT

Mele20 posted : Hmmm...I can't tell from using Windows Explorer but evidently I already have .NET 4.5:

"Note: Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 include the .NET Framework 4.5. Therefore, you don't have to install this software on those operating systems."
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:15:33 EDT

StuartMW posted : There's also a 4.5.

»www.microsoft.com/en-us/download···id=30653
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:13:00 EDT

Mele20 posted : Windows 8 has ALL versions of .NET from 1.0 through 4.

Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:25:54 EDT

Sindows 7 posted :

said by trparky:

Recent versions of Windows come with .NET bundled as part of it. Windows 8 for instance has .NET 4 as part of the OS bundle.

Are you sure Windows 8 has .net 4?

Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:14:23 EDT

trparky posted : Recent versions of Windows come with .NET bundled as part of it. Windows 8 for instance has .NET 4 as part of the OS bundle.

Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:04:54 EDT

kickass69 posted : Doesn't help that .NET is so bulky and slows a PC down quite a bit. I've installed .NET 3.5 SP 1 and .NET 4 to test out some programs I might want to use and boy was there a difference in Windows loading up much less using it. Fully uninstalled and cleaned out both .NETs after I was done testing out those programs and XP Pro SP3 ran quickly again.

Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:56:38 EDT

OZO posted : To uninstall it you may try to run:
rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection java.inf,uninstall
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:37:45 EDT

Mele20 posted : Ahhh... .NET UGH. I got .NET before hardly anyone had even heard of it. The first version was STILL IN BETA when I had to get it on my 98SE machine because I was a beta tester for Cookie Crusher (which was the first piece of software I ever bought). Cookie Crusher decided to do a major overhaul of their product and thought .NET would be great to use. I couldn't even continue as a beta tester but that was because I had to daisy chain Proxo and the new Cookie Crusher beta and that slowed my computer horribly. The old, non .NET cookie crusher was not a proxy and worked well for me so I went back to it but still had that beta version of .NET 1.0 on my computer. .NET from the beginning has been awful to fully uninstall and a nightmare to update...and now...all those versions...UGH.
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:29:41 EDT

StuartMW posted : Ahh well Microsoft invented .NET to replace Java. Of course .NET is proprietary and applications written for it are as slow as a wet week. Unfortunately many vendors write software in .NET (rather than machine code) because that's what Microsoft pushes.

Pretty soon you'll need a quad-core 4GHz CPU and 32GB of RAM to run Calculator :(

Makes you wonder how Windows 3.1 worked at all.
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:25:45 EDT

Dustyn posted :

said by antdude:

Hi!
My old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 still shows "Java Version: 1.1.4 from Microsoft Corp.

That's scary!

Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:17:59 EDT

Mele20 posted : I recall being pissed when my new XP Pro SP1 machine, in late 2003, came with Sun Java, and no Microsoft JVM, because of the settlement. I immediately uninstalled Sun Java and found Microsoft JVM which I installed. I used it for several years. I remember posting in the Java forum here (yes, we had a Java forum) where we discussed which was better - JVM or Sun. I far preferred JVM.
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:12:19 EDT

antdude posted :

said by StuartMW:

Microsoft made a tool to remove their JVM but they no longer make it available for download

»support.microsoft.com/kb/826878

but you can get it here

»www.softpedia.com/progDownload/M···279.html

BTW Google (with GoogleSharing is your friend)

FYI I thought Win2K was the last OS to get the Microsoft JVM.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_···_Machine

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The initial edition Windows XP RTM did not ship with a Java virtual machine 2001, due to the settlement. This required users that wanted to run Java Applets in Internet Explorer to download and install either the standard Sun Java virtual machine, or locate a copy of the Microsoft Java virtual machine elsewhere.

Thanks. I must have downloaded and installed it then. It was SO long ago. :(
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Re: Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:32:31 EDT

StuartMW posted : Microsoft made a tool to remove their JVM but they no longer make it available for download

»support.microsoft.com/kb/826878

but you can get it here

»www.softpedia.com/progDownload/M···279.html

BTW Google (with GoogleSharing is your friend)

FYI I thought Win2K was the last OS to get the Microsoft JVM.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_···_Machine

quote:
The initial edition Windows XP RTM did not ship with a Java virtual machine 2001, due to the settlement. This required users that wanted to run Java Applets in Internet Explorer to download and install either the standard Sun Java virtual machine, or locate a copy of the Microsoft Java virtual machine elsewhere.

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Disable/Remove MS JVM fully in an Windows machine?

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:11:30 EDT

antdude posted : Hi!

My old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 still shows "Java Version: 1.1.4 from Microsoft Corp." in »javatester.org/version.html in IE7. IIRC, XP and older Windows versions came with Java.

I cannot seem to find a way to remove/disable this in IE. Or is there no way? I really want to get rid of Java fully including Oracle. Or do I have to install Oracle to prevent IE using its outdated MS one?

Thank you in advance. :)
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