http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27716333 en Sun, 19 May 2013 14:50:15 EDT Sun, 19 May 2013 14:50:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27855267 FIOS spoiled me, but it has been spoiling my wallet too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27855267 Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:26:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27819281 no internet access, email account shut off, etc.) to get sent to collections.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27819281 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:03:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27819000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27819000 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:00:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27818008 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27818008 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:07:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27815709
Edit: I am being billed for Jan 1st through Feb 1st. However, the online invoice lacks a DUE DATE for the invoice. I'm starting to think that this ISP is more akin to some 3rd-world ISP. I don't know how you can give someone an invoice without a due date. Is this intentional deception on DSLX's part?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27815709 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:05:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27780336 »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric···fastpath

With interleaved, my speedtest.net ping times were usually in the 40s or 50s. With fast path, they're in the high teens or low twenties.

Also, configuring your DNS providers thoughtfully may help a little with perceived load times.

And as always, you're at the mercy of the server you're talking to and the particular route that takes you there. Here are two different Google pings I did; my results going to the one in your test are quite similar to your results.

Pinging www.google.com [74.125.224.240] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.224.240: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.224.240: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.224.240: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.224.240: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 74.125.224.240:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 9ms

Pinging 173.194.75.103 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=47
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=47
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=47
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 173.194.75.103:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 88ms, Maximum = 90ms, Average = 88ms]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27780336 Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:34:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27778908
The streaming game video page freezes up sometimes, but that might be the stream and not my connection. The venue was streaming with a cell phone and 4G to twitch.

I noticed that web pages do load slower than on FIOS 30/25. Even primarily text-based forum pages. Which surprised me. But Speedtest.net pegs my latency at around 60ms, which seems slightly high to me. When I had Verizon DSL on this same line, I thought I got 30-35ms pings to google.

Downloads take 10 times as long, which is as expected, since my speed is 10x slower. (350KB/sec, rather than 3.5MB/sec)

All in all, the service seems ok. The absolute price is better than FIOS by far.

Edit: ping www.google.com
Pinging www.google.com [173.194.75.103] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=48
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=48
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=48
Reply from 173.194.75.103: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 173.194.75.103:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 132ms, Average = 91ms

Latency seems not so good on this connection.

Ping statistics for 173.194.75.103:
Packets: Sent = 300, Received = 300, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 50ms, Maximum = 157ms, Average = 63ms]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27778908 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 16:33:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27778609 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27778609 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:51:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27777596
Edit: After perusing the DSLEx pages more, even though in my account summary my username is listed simply, on the connection page, it showed me that I have to use username@dslextreme.net in my PPPoE login details. Once I did that, I was able to connect.

Strangely, after that, going to dslreports.com brought me to activate.verizon.net every time. Yet I could open plenty of other sites without interference. I could also AIM and Skype no problem.

Anyways, after doing an IPCONFIG /FLUSHDNS (which didn't do much), then I tried going to dslreports.com in IE rather than Waterfox, and it worked, so then I closed Waterfox and re-opened it, and then I was getting 404 errors. So I cleared my dslreports.com cookies, and finally, it seems like everything is working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27777596 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:20:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27770054 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27770054 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:30:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27769887 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27769887 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:20:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27769772
Anyways, from that point on, how long does it take until my DSLX username/password combo work for PPPoE?

I accessed my Westell 327W, and simply replaced my old Verizon DSL login info with my DSLX info, and it's still getting DSL link signal like always, but then I get a red "internet" light. Like the PPPoE isn't going through.

Does the CO work happen the same day as the tech comes out (he came early in the morning)?

Or do I need to wait until my official activation date before it will let me log in?

Or is there some sort of configuration that I need to do to my modem/router?

Edit: I did an autodetect WAN settings.
DHCP server not found.
PPPoE server found!
VPI 0 / VCI 35

Re-entered my password, just for kicks. Nope, still a red internet light.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27769772 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:38:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27761166 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27761166 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:32:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27760416 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27760416 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:54:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27759747
All I really need is for the DSL tech to identify my line/linecard, and do whatever magic needs to be done to route through DSLEx rather than Verizon, and then I need a username/password for the PPPoE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27759747 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:44:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27756561 Verizon Online DSL FAQ »How to Turn off the Walled Garden

With regards to FIOS: it can go either way. In some cases, Verizon will refuse to run new copper line after they've installed fiber; in others, they're willing to restore the copper. The biggest determiner, insofar as I can see, is how destructive the removal of the copper line was. If they keep the copper in place and simply disconnect the end, then it's no big deal to restore it. If they remove the line completely (such as when they convert a neighborhood completely to fiber), then they're understandably more reluctant to restore the copper.

Yes, you definitely can request to have the copper left in place; dslx_steve did that. With regards to them not honoring such requests, couldn't say about that; I've never heard of them failing to honor such a request, but I've seen worse screw-ups so it's possible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27756561 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:37:49 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27756363
Some have said you can request that the copper wiring be left in place, though what I've read suggests those requests often aren't honored.

I'll be interested to hear whether there's any truth in all that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27756363 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:38:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27755876 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27755876 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:12:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27718922 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27718922 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:15:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27717822
There is no conflict between FIOS and DSL so getting our service shouldn't disconnect your FIOS. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27717822 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:22:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27716333
Unfortunately, those FIOS speed increases come with billing increases.

I used to have Verizon dry-loop DSL 3Mbit service for $31.95/mo out of contract. Then I upgraded to FIOS, 25/25 Internet and Extreme HD TV, for $117/mo under a 2-year price guarantee.

Well, times are tough, and FIOS is getting too expensive for me, plus, I haven't watched TV in months.

I thought about trying to switch back to my old reliable DSL, but from what I understand, once you switch to FIOS at an address, Verizon's billing computer won't let you switch back.

Anyways, I found out about DSLExtreme, and their prices seemed reasonable, and I pre-qualified, so I signed up on their web site.

I put in the notes that I wanted to keep FIOS, and add DSLEx as a backup service, and that I still have DSL link signal on my phone line.

Do you think that they can do this, give me both my existing FIOS, as well as dry-loop DSL through a reseller like DSLextreme?

Or will Verizon cancel my FIOS when the DSL install goes through?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Just-signed-up-for-3Mbit-service-MA-Verizon-territory-27716333 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:19:19 EDT