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| Intel Haswell i5 and i7 line-ups leaked quote: "The new chips will still be running on the same 22nm production process, but with a new architecture that should see the graphics performance of the HD 4600 graphics components doubling.
That should give us some rather tasty-performing Ultrabooks, and with the upgraded GT3E version of the HD graphics on the mobile side we should get some svelte gaming laptops too.
One of the interesting points is the increase in TDP from the 77W of the Ivy Bridge up to 84W in the new Haswell chips. I expect thats mostly down to the beefier graphics components with higher clockspeeds."
"Sadly theres no boost in the general clockspeed of the CPUs themselves. Were still limited to 3.5GHz for the top-end i7-4770K and 3.4GHz for the i5-4670K.
Its not a surprise to see Intel isnt upping the core count either sticking to four cores/eight threads for the i7 series and four cores/four threads for the i5."
- PCGamer.com
So basically, if you were expecting Haswell to be a big leap from current gen then you will probably be disappointed.
No additional cores, same clock speeds, LGA 2011, and a higher TDP from 77W to 84W. The ONLY seemingly beneficial improvement is that the IGP will be improved to offer "double the performance of current gen." Great for laptops/ultrabooks, useless for desktop users looking for a worthy upgrade from Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Story: »www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/13/intel···-leaked/ |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | I'm hoping the refinement of the 22nm fabrication and full implementation of the 3D/trigate transistors leads to better temps and better OCing than Ivy Bridge offered.
I am planning already to get the i5-4670K, pair it with my Corsair H100, and OC the hell out of it. I probably want to run 2x 8GB @ at least 1833, preferably as fast as 2400. Pair that with a 512 GB SSD and my current Radeon 7970 and you have a screaming rig. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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| You got that right! Those parts would make any computer lover tingle. Sounds like a great plan for a super boss machine.
Which CPU do you currently use? If you already have an SSD, I'd probably look into 7970 Crossfire a step before another SSD purchase. If you already have an SSD, bulk up your graphics(if you need to) and THEN buy a bigger SSD.
Of course, this depends on *your* needs. For me, I'm working towards a triple monitor, 3x680SLI build at the moment. I might just stay with my i5 2500K another round. It runs at 4.8ghz w/8GB of ram @ 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 timings.
I also just bought a brand new pair of Astro A50's that should be arriving next week. I'm dreaming of surround gaming and Astro A50's right now. I just need 1 more 1080p 24" monitor, and a high end GPU(might stick with 560Ti SLI until 2013 for next gen GPU, not 680). Its super super tough not just going ahead and pulling the trigger on a 680. I think I might be best suited waiting and being patient. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | I have a Vertex 2 120GB (SATA II). So I definitely need a larger (and faster) SSD.
I bought the Sapphire Radeon 7970 3GB (Vapor-X), which is almost a 2.5 slot card. I was planning on going Crossfire, because I run a 27" monitor at 2560x1140 and a 20" secondary monitor at 1680x1050. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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| Why SATA II? Old mobo?
I have a Samsung 830 256GB SSD (SATA III). It still has about ~155GB of space left on it because I'm so stingy with what I put on it. I just purchased a 2TB WD Caviar Black to accompany my 1TB Black(No RAID atm) so I can continue to be stingy w/my SSD space.
That Sapphire 7970 Vapor-X card is a beast in it's own right. Solid card you have there for sure. You probably don't have to worry about upgrading your GPU for awhile. At that point, as I'm sure you know, it's all about Crossfiring from here on out! |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to TruSm0ke said by TruSm0ke:You got that right! Those parts would make any computer lover tingle. Sounds like a great plan for a super boss machine.
Which CPU do you currently use? If you already have an SSD, I'd probably look into 7970 Crossfire a step before another SSD purchase. If you already have an SSD, bulk up your graphics(if you need to) and THEN buy a bigger SSD.
Of course, this depends on *your* needs. For me, I'm working towards a triple monitor, 3x680SLI build at the moment. I might just stay with my i5 2500K another round. It runs at 4.8ghz w/8GB of ram @ 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 timings. You are going to be SEVERELY bottlenecked if you go tri-SLI on Z68. I would make the jump to 2011 or Ivy Bridge-E if you plan on doing that. You are going to be very limited by your PCI bandwidth. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to TruSm0ke said by TruSm0ke:Why SATA II? Old mobo?
I have a Samsung 830 256GB SSD (SATA III). It still has about ~155GB of space left on it because I'm so stingy with what I put on it. I just purchased a 2TB WD Caviar Black to accompany my 1TB Black(No RAID atm) so I can continue to be stingy w/my SSD space.
That Sapphire 7970 Vapor-X card is a beast in it's own right. Solid card you have there for sure. You probably don't have to worry about upgrading your GPU for awhile. At that point, as I'm sure you know, it's all about Crossfiring from here on out! I'm running an x58 i7-920 now.  -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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1 edit | reply to Krisnatharok Yeah, I know about being bottlenecked on Z68. It wouldn't be good without a new mobo. I'd upgrade my motherboard somewhere between my first high-end GPU and SLI. At that point though, I'd likely be past Haswell.
Sitting with a 1st gen i7, Haswell will be a very good upgrade for you. |
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 GhastlyonePremium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2 | reply to Krisnatharok said by Krisnatharok:I'm hoping the refinement of the 22nm fabrication and full implementation of the 3D/trigate transistors leads to better temps and better OCing than Ivy Bridge offered.
I am planning already to get the i5-4670K, pair it with my Corsair H100, and OC the hell out of it. I probably want to run 2x 8GB @ at least 1833, preferably as fast as 2400. Pair that with a 512 GB SSD and my current Radeon 7970 and you have a screaming rig. I've got my i5 Ivy Bridge overclocked to 4.0ghz. It currently maxes out under full load running OCCT at 60C air cooled.
There's no game out there that will put a load on these CPUs as bad as OCCT/Prime 95 do.
I've read about a lot of people running Ivy Bridges at 4.5ghz under air cooling.
But yeah, If you build that rig, that'll be a beast. |
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| My Sandy Bridge i5 2500K is overclocked to 4.8ghz, water cooled (closed loop Corsair H60), and temps max out at around ~76C running Prime 95. Ivy Bridge is known to run hot, especially when you consider that 4ghz isn't an overly large overclock and your temps are still 60C(which, mind you, isn't terrible). Do you know how many volts your CPU is using @ 4ghz? |
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 GhastlyonePremium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2 | said by TruSm0ke:My Sandy Bridge i5 2500K is overclocked to 4.8ghz, water cooled (closed loop Corsair H60), and temps max out at around ~76C running Prime 95. Ivy Bridge is known to run hot, especially when you consider that 4ghz isn't an overly large overclock and your temps are still 60C(which, mind you, isn't terrible). Do you know how many volts your CPU is using @ 4ghz? Stock voltage. If I go any higher in the future, which I'll probably bump up it up to 4.2 or 4.3ghz, then I'll adjust the voltage. |
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| You should be able to raise your OC to 4.2 or 4.3ghz with a minimal voltage increase. Might not even need to touch voltage. I know Ivy Bridge is more fickle in regards to voltage than Sandy Bridge but I've read very positive results of people getting up to atleast 4.5ghz positively stable. But I'd stick with an overclock of 4.3ghz until you atleast get a better cooler.
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 GhastlyonePremium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2 | said by TruSm0ke:You should be able to raise your OC to 4.2 or 4.3ghz with a minimal voltage increase. Might not even need to touch voltage. I know Ivy Bridge is more fickle in regards to voltage than Sandy Bridge but I've read very positive results of people getting up to atleast 4.5ghz positively stable. But I'd stick with an overclock of 4.3ghz until you atleast get a better cooler.
Yeah I'm running a 92mm Zalman. So far at 4.0ghz, it's completely stable and runs awesome.
If I can get to 4.2 or 4.3 on stock voltage or slight increase, that would be awesome. |
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 Da Man join:2008-05-08 Hanover, PA | reply to TruSm0ke AVX2 and FMA theoretically double MIPS&FLOPS so it can be big leap for software that uses it. There should be a measureable IPC increase for other software too. |
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 McBrainBRB Face Melting join:2010-05-06 Kalimdor kudos:2 | reply to Krisnatharok said by Krisnatharok:I'm hoping the refinement of the 22nm fabrication and full implementation of the 3D/trigate transistors leads to better temps and better OCing than Ivy Bridge offered.
I am planning already to get the i5-4670K, pair it with my Corsair H100, and OC the hell out of it. I probably want to run 2x 8GB @ at least 1833, preferably as fast as 2400. Pair that with a 512 GB SSD and my current Radeon 7970 and you have a screaming rig. Kris, what do you expect the price of that 4670k to be? A ballpark figure will be acceptable.
As we've talked about before, I'm planning on a big overhaul of my rig switching from AMD to Intel in the spring...I was just wondering if waiting for Haswell would be worth it, if it's in the budget.
I also expect the release of the new technology to drive down the cost of current LGA 2011 processors, is this a correct assumption?
With this news I'm wondering if waiting until late spring to upgrade will be the best choice. -- McBrain#1430
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 GhastlyonePremium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2 | said by McBrain:said by Krisnatharok:I'm hoping the refinement of the 22nm fabrication and full implementation of the 3D/trigate transistors leads to better temps and better OCing than Ivy Bridge offered.
I am planning already to get the i5-4670K, pair it with my Corsair H100, and OC the hell out of it. I probably want to run 2x 8GB @ at least 1833, preferably as fast as 2400. Pair that with a 512 GB SSD and my current Radeon 7970 and you have a screaming rig. I also expect the release of the new technology to drive down the cost of current LGA 2011 processors, is this a correct assumption? Don't count on it. Same thing with GPU's. They never seem to drop in price much.
Also I think the Ivy Bridge i5 3570k was right around $300.00 when it released. |
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 McBrainBRB Face Melting join:2010-05-06 Kalimdor kudos:2 | Damn double posts...second one in as many days.
I've gotta get better at this internet thing. |
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 McBrainBRB Face Melting join:2010-05-06 Kalimdor kudos:2 | reply to Ghastlyone I'd drop 3 bills on an i5-4670k.
This will be the closest I ever get to building a "dream" rig. It'll be a poor man's dream, but I don't see myself having the opportunity to build another computer just because I want to for a while. |
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 GhastlyonePremium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2 | If you build one man, you'll love it.
My i5 3570K absolutely screams. So far, there's nothing I cannot run completely maxed out. |
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 | reply to McBrain Maybe with some more information about your current system, we can give better advice on whether an upgrade is worth it or not. Also, equally important, what are your needs? What do you plan to do with it? |
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